I got stupid. The money was too good.

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The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Susan W. - Aug 13, 2004 7:48:48 am PDT #6017 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Oooh, nice.


deborah grabien - Aug 13, 2004 8:01:41 am PDT #6018 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Jeepers. Deena, that's brilliant.


Susan W. - Aug 13, 2004 8:06:47 am PDT #6019 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Anyone got any suggestions for how to improve my skills in writing action?

Dialogue I'm good at. Introspective narration, where I turn my viewpoint character loose and let him/her tell the story? Easy-peasy. Action is tougher. And the more removed the action is from my personal experience, and/or the harder it is to intersperse with dialogue or introspection, the harder it gets.

Any ideas? So far I've thought of analyzing action portions of my favorite books and pulling out my DVD collection and watching to see what kind of visual details most draw my eye.


deborah grabien - Aug 13, 2004 8:11:26 am PDT #6020 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Jeepers, Susan, I don't know, because I'm one of those certifiable freaks, a process-free writer. But I have found that putting myself briefly into the fictional shoes of the different characters and emotionally experiencing said action for a few seconds is a damned sight more effective for me than trying to just describe it as the Invisible Overlord of the book.

Not always comfortable, mind you, but effective. You wrote a drabble a while back, in which your heroine shot a French soldier and mangled it, leaving him alive and in agony. If you expand that scene and wear her muddied dress, what is she feeling as she sees him approaching, when she lifts the gun she was never trained to use, when the recoil knocks her back, when she hears him scream and fall?

We know that when her companion comes up and finishes the job, she falls down retching. But if you're in her shoes, what do you experience?

I guess it's a form of channeling.


Connie Neil - Aug 13, 2004 8:14:29 am PDT #6021 of 10001
brillig

Christ, Deena . . .


Deena - Aug 13, 2004 8:16:40 am PDT #6022 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Thanks Susan and Deb. Working on being able to write like that all the time.

My most effective writing occurs when I channel a character as Deb describes.

eta: heh. I like that response from you, Connie.


deborah grabien - Aug 13, 2004 8:21:45 am PDT #6023 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Channeling a character - this can't be stressed enough - is not always pleasant. I had major trouble finishing Eyes in the Fire - the last eighty pages were so tough (my three main characters, well, it wasn't a happy ending), I went and lay on a beach in Hawaii because I'd start shaking every time I tried to write it. I came home and did it, but you can't just sit at a remove and play God: a book written with the emotions of the characters are, to my mind, the only ones worth reading. And that means breaking down a wall that aint always easy or pleasant to break down.

It's one of the reasons I almost never reread "clever" books. Oh, look, I can see the author, jerking the characters around rather than actually investing herself or himself in their lives, their feelings, their triumphs, their failures. No thanks.


Susan W. - Aug 13, 2004 8:24:39 am PDT #6024 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Interestingly, the actiony drabbles I've written haven't been hard to write, and I think they've been pretty good. I think it's because they're so short that all I'm doing is jumping into the head of the character and describing their impressions. But when it's an actual scene and I have to do at least some set-up work just to show where everyone is and what they're doing, it turns all wooden and awkward on me.


deborah grabien - Aug 13, 2004 8:26:14 am PDT #6025 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Susan, awkward how? Is it a kind of impatience - a "shit, I don't want to bother with all this stuff, I just want to get right to it" deal?


Connie Neil - Aug 13, 2004 8:32:29 am PDT #6026 of 10001
brillig

Channeling a character - this can't be stressed enough - is not always pleasant.

Very true. It took me a long time a couple of years ago to realize the reason I was stressed and depressed was because of what I was doing to the main character in a fic in another fandom. I was trying to imagine what it would take to batter a personality to the point of surrender to another person's power--and not in a pleasant way, either. The character's despair kept leaching over. I never did finish the story, dammit.

Deena, that's a hard drabble to read for me. They had to resuscitate Hubby three times a few years ago. Miscalculation of anesthesia. Our hospital's policy is not to go for a fourth try. If my mind ran that way, I probably could have gotten a nice malpractice settlement out of them.