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'War Stories'


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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Pix - Jul 14, 2004 4:07:07 pm PDT #5710 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

Magical realism is more set in real world but has elements of magic woven in -- it's very common in Hispanic literature especially. Anaya, Cisneros, and Marquez are all good examples.

Fantasy has its own set of subgenres, but it's more typical taking place in a different world -- often an older or younger Earth-like realm, and almost always in less technologically advanced times.

Some of my favorite contemporary fantasy authors are George R.R. Martin, Robin Hobb, and J.V. Jones.

Likely an x-post...


deborah grabien - Jul 14, 2004 4:12:26 pm PDT #5711 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Definitely a crosspost. But Alice Hoffman also does some nice magic realism if that's the definition. And "Witches of Eastwick" also qualifies.

When you come down to it, it's the basis for BtVS and Angel. Our world, with extraordinary things just beyond the corner of our vision.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 4:20:18 pm PDT #5712 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fantasy has its own set of subgenres, but it's more typical taking place in a different world -- often an older or younger Earth-like realm, and almost always in less technologically advanced times.

Does that mean you'd call Emma Bull's stuff magic realism? Brust's Agyar? You equate it with urban fantasy?


Susan W. - Jul 14, 2004 4:20:25 pm PDT #5713 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Woohoo, erika!

AmyLiz, I read Mr. and Mrs. Bo Jo Jones in high school. I don't have the book anymore, but the mere fact it's one of the few books I read then that I still have vivid memories of says something,

Kristin, I love a good fantasy novel, and I'm planning to write in the genre one of these days.


sj - Jul 14, 2004 4:21:44 pm PDT #5714 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

When you come down to it, it's the basis for BtVS and Angel. Our world, with extraordinary things just beyond the corner of our vision.

I mostly agree with your definition of the differences between magical realism and fantasy. I also prefer magical realism as a literary genre. However, I think when creatures such as vampires and other demons are involved you are more into fantasy/horror than magical realism. Although I do agree that there is some element of magical realism to BtVS and Angel because of the fact that they take place in a real world setting.


deborah grabien - Jul 14, 2004 4:26:16 pm PDT #5715 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

However, I think when creatures such as vampires and other demons are involved you are more into fantasy/horror than magical realism.

Ah, but ghosts and vampires aren't other species, or fantasy species: pretty much every culture I know of that has them as belief or legend has them as beings who were once human.

That, right there, puts them in a whole nother class than hobbits and dragons, for me.


Pix - Jul 14, 2004 6:25:04 pm PDT #5716 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

Oh, Deb and ita, I'm not saying by any means I'm an expert at the definition. FWIW, I do think there is urban fantasy, too. I think of magical realism as being more subtle, is all. I would agree with sj that having a pervasive magical species (like vampires etc) takes it out of the realm of magical realism and into the realm of fantasy.

Magical realism seems usually dreamy to me--on the edges of reality rather than "in your face".


Astarte - Jul 14, 2004 6:25:39 pm PDT #5717 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Woot Woot, erika!!!

I had a fantastic evening. A friend was stuck on a script she's writing for a training film, and she asked if I'd help her troubleshoot it.

My writing time has been sapped by the move and life in general, and my confidence has ebbed with every day I didn't get my pages done.

I was on fire tonight. I knew how to fix her trouble spots, and how to make suggestions without trying to take over her story. She left feeling unstuck and happy.

I might just have a future at this writing gig after all.


Pix - Jul 14, 2004 6:51:57 pm PDT #5718 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

YAY Astarte!!!


sj - Jul 14, 2004 6:52:40 pm PDT #5719 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Magical realism seems usually dreamy to me--on the edges of reality rather than "in your face".

This.