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Mal ,'Serenity'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Anne W. - Jan 24, 2003 11:24:22 am PST #533 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

That's one of the hardest parts of plotting and planning--how do I get characters from Point A to Point B so that a) the reader doesn't hear the plot machinery creaking and b) I don't have to hit the characters with a stupid stick to get them to make certain choices.


Connie Neil - Jan 24, 2003 11:26:29 am PST #534 of 10001
brillig

Yes, the Evil Cackle of Epiphany! Gods, that's such a lovely feeling.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 24, 2003 11:29:41 am PST #535 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Gods, that's such a lovely feeling.

It is.

Note: I'm not the same person as connie. I know I keep agreeing with her, but I swear we're not a sock-puppet, either of us.


Anne W. - Jan 24, 2003 11:30:49 am PST #536 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

There's nothing like the feeling when you think of something truly awful you can inflict upon your main character in the name of literature. Sometimes, it'll happen while I'm driving along the highway, and I'll wind up smiling all the way home.


Connie Neil - Jan 24, 2003 11:32:45 am PST #537 of 10001
brillig

Oh, yesss, my precioussss. What I'm gonna do to Xander .... Gives me happy chills and is the primary motivator in getting through slow sections. I keep wanting to write those sections, but I know if I only do the good parts I'll forget to do the boring (for me) set-up sections.


Susan W. - Jan 24, 2003 11:33:09 am PST #538 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'm writing in first person, with a character who has to gradually fall out of love with one man and fall for another. I'm trying to clue readers in that Julius is really arrogant and patronizing behind his superficial kindness, and that once you get past James's impulsive nature and vain streak, he's actually a much nicer guy. James treats people well because that's the kind of person he is, at bottom, while Julius treats people well because he likes to think of himself as good. The trick is to give cues for the readers, but make them subtle enough that my heroine doesn't look stupid and blind for not picking up on them immediately.

I still need to work on it. Too many people from my writing group are disappointed when they realize Julius isn't the hero, because "he's such a nice guy." And I'm all, "But he's smug! And pompous! And takes everything, including himself, way too seriously!"


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 24, 2003 11:34:56 am PST #539 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

There's nothing like the feeling when you think of something truly awful you can inflict upon your main character in the name of literature.

I'm now picturing Thomas Hardy, planning Tess: "What shall we do at the end? Let her live with Angel in another country? Send her to Brazil alone? I know- let's hang her!"

He'd have a good smile at that, driving home from London to Wessex.


Anne W. - Jan 24, 2003 11:36:17 am PST #540 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

He'd have a good smile at that, driving home from London to Wessex.

One of my literature teachers said that Kafka used to read his bleaker stuff out loud to his friends, and he'd keep cracking up in the middle of things.


Connie Neil - Jan 24, 2003 11:36:24 am PST #541 of 10001
brillig

Nothing says Happy Author like hanging your main character.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 24, 2003 11:36:53 am PST #542 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I'm writing in first person, with a character who has to gradually fall out of love with one man and fall for another.

Am, get your mind clued up to the idea that Susan doesn't write slash. Because this sounds a little- thankfully, not too much- like the novel I'm working on at the moment. Only my first person is male.