It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 24, 2003 2:23:42 am PST #518 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Yes, Holli! Watching hte movie in my head and writing down what happens!

Yes, this. I have this too. And because I love to write first person POV, I also have "watch the scene from behind so-and-so's eyes".

They tend to argue on the fine details, especially if it involves pain.

This also. I have the occassional one who argues in favour. I blame my Jossverse fanfic for that.


Anne W. - Jan 24, 2003 4:06:55 am PST #519 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The best self-description I've managed to come up with is that I feel like a director/producer of improv theater

That sounds like the way I work. I've got a point A, and I give the characters a rough shove in the direction of point B. I'll then type out a rough outline with dialogue fragments, almost as if I were taking notes while watching a scene unfold. I don't worry so much about the niceties of language or punctuation. Later, I'll go back and render the scene into prose.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 24, 2003 4:33:35 am PST #520 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I'll then type out a rough outline with dialogue fragments, almost as if I were taking notes while watching a scene unfold.

And for you that's an actual document? I ask because I've been thinking about my writing process recently, and why I don't edit nearly as much as some people do. I think the thing is that this first draft I do enteirly in my head, going over it several times to get details right, and then the first one that exists as a document is practically an editing stage. I might go over again for grammar and word choice, but I don't normally do hundreds of edits on paper.


Anne W. - Jan 24, 2003 4:44:35 am PST #521 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Yup. My first draft is more like an outline than anything resembling coherent prose. It may contain bits here and there that make it into the final draft more or less intact. (These bits are usually the pivotal points in a scene.)

In a way, I tend to write the way some people paint. I'll do a rough sketch that will get refined and retooled, with washes of color added later, and details put in and tweaked as the whole gets nearer to completion.

Given the amount of knitting, sewing, drawing, etc. that I do, it's no surprise to me that I process my thinking through my hands. If I'm typing (or writing), energizes my creative though processes. Does that make sense?


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 24, 2003 4:54:12 am PST #522 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Yes, it makes a lot of sense. It's just very different to the way I work- which is part of why I'm intrested.


Theodosia - Jan 24, 2003 5:44:45 am PST #523 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Thank goodness there is not One True Way How To Write, only a myriad of ways that work better or worse for individuals. I personally was much comforted by finding out that Chip Delany says he spends 2-3 times as much time self-editing as he does writing. He can easily spend an hour working on a single page.

Often times, I'll print out a hard copy of a double-spaced first draft, get me a big ol' red pen and go to town on it in a big comfy chair. Then I'll type the whole thing in fresh. There's also the "remove five words from every big paragraph" game. You'd be surprised how many excess words there are when you start looking for them.


Anne W. - Jan 24, 2003 5:58:35 am PST #524 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Often times, I'll print out a hard copy of a double-spaced first draft, get me a big ol' red pen and go to town on it in a big comfy chair.

I do much the same thing. For some reason, it's easier for me to read my own writing on paper than on screen.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 24, 2003 6:04:38 am PST #525 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Often times, I'll print out a hard copy of a double-spaced first draft, get me a big ol' red pen and go to town on it in a big comfy chair.

I've tried to do the same thing, but I tend to end up sitting there aruging with myself: do you really need that word?
Yes, I do.
No, I don't.
Yes, it does such-and-such.
But does that need doing...
and so on.

Eventually I get bored, because while there are mistakes that I can fix on a second read or when someone points them out, there aren't that many.


Theodosia - Jan 24, 2003 6:05:16 am PST #526 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

That's when printing out in big fat Courier font really makes sense -- more room for editing marks.


Connie Neil - Jan 24, 2003 11:07:12 am PST #527 of 10001
brillig

Heck, I might as well admit it. I do very little editing once it's down on paper/electrons. Sometimes a sentence trips my eye, and that tells me the thing needs to be worked on, or I realize--or someone points out!--that who's doing what is unclear. I will write down outlines for future scenes or a plot point that will springboard me into the rest of the story, but generally I just pour the elements I'm trying to work on into the big blender in my head and let everything settle out. I'll peek in every now and then to see how the brewing is going, try to answer any questions they have, or fine tune some choreography (sounds like Moulin Rouge going on up there), but once it's written I do little fiddling.

On the flipside, I have a piece I've written several years ago, and it's getting massive rewrites as I transcribe it into the computer. But that piece is dealing with a lot of mental angst and character development that's going in ugly places, and I wasn't near as comfortable with it back then. Thank you, Buffy, you've taught me how to torture my characters in new and more interesting ways.