A year and a half ago, I could have eviscerated him with my thoughts. Now I can barely hurt his feelings. Things used to be so much simpler.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Anne W. - Jul 11, 2003 3:57:01 pm PDT #1566 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Deb, insent. Let me know if you have trouble opening the attachment.


deborah grabien - Jul 11, 2003 4:12:21 pm PDT #1567 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Liz, whoooeeee. If I have to do more than the first 55 pages? They get smacked with bigtime fees.

Anne, got it, and it opened fine. Cookies have been offered.


Anne W. - Jul 11, 2003 4:17:21 pm PDT #1568 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Cookies will be gratefully accepted. I've heard wonderful things about your cookies.

I will be doing original writing this weekend. Alas, it is for work, and won't be all that fun.


Ms. Havisham - Jul 11, 2003 6:45:44 pm PDT #1569 of 10001
And we will call it... "This Land."

t non-sequitor

Herring rollmops?

(I suppose I could clean the hardwood floors with fish...)


deborah grabien - Jul 11, 2003 7:02:46 pm PDT #1570 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Hee! Herring rollmops (I was actually asked to do them for a party for a Dutch couple, as hors d'ouvres, are rolled-up herring fillets on sticks. They're smoked fish with a dipping sauce and they're intensely labour-intensive.

I have to start these edits. I don't want to right now, damnit.


deborah grabien - Jul 12, 2003 1:36:04 pm PDT #1571 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Oh dear.

I am halfway through the edits and commentary. My comments are now at six typewritten pages and they're getting progressively crankier.

Oh dear oh dear oh dear dear dear.

For every line of show, there are fifty of tell.

Shoot me now...


Ms. Havisham - Jul 12, 2003 1:40:07 pm PDT #1572 of 10001
And we will call it... "This Land."

Is there anything nice to be said about it at all?


deborah grabien - Jul 12, 2003 1:43:41 pm PDT #1573 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Well - they're very nice people.

That's, well, yes.

That's all I got.

(banging head against monitor)


Ms. Havisham - Jul 12, 2003 1:48:39 pm PDT #1574 of 10001
And we will call it... "This Land."

Ouch. On both counts.

Hope you're going with the chapter-by-chapter tutoring and hopefully they'll start to realize what they need to do on their own plan. Cause ultimately, it's their story and not yours so you shouldn't bleed yourself dry over it.

And hey, less-than-perfect manuscripts get published all the time.


deborah grabien - Jul 12, 2003 1:52:12 pm PDT #1575 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Ms H, that's recisely what I'm doing - they've already been told, anything more than this and we're in the ghosting range, and ghosting is $4-$5K, except that I. Don't. Wanna.

This isn't less than perfect; it's not publishable. It reads like a cross between a series of gossip sheet press releases and someone's idea for a movie of the week teleplay treatment.

Oh well. Off to Woodside, to have dinner with a real writer, damnit. Not to mention a real editor; Deb B was Editor In Chief of Orion Press and maybe she can tell me how to cope with this junk.