I'm a vision of hotliness, and how weird is that? Mystical comas. You know, if you can stand the horror of a higher power hijacking your mind and body so that it can give birth to itself, I really recommend 'em.

Cordelia ,'You're Welcome'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Katie M - May 23, 2003 9:27:57 am PDT #1377 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I'm not a writer, Susan, but I've actually been thinking about physical description some recently because I've found that it's rare for it to really work for me. One of the things that makes me think "oh, this is good" is when I can actually see a scene - I don't have a very visual imagination.

Anyway, one of the things that I've found really tends to get ahold of me is movement, action, though not necessarily in a run-and-jump kind of way. Showing a charactering doing something will give me more of a mental image of them in one sentence than a paragraph of purely physical description, which I personally will tune out.

Anyway, idiosyncratic I know, but if you're interested.


deborah grabien - May 23, 2003 10:37:18 am PDT #1378 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Home from a long night in the hospital.

Susan, have you considered giving us the scene through the eyes of different characters, rather than as straight narration?

Lucy seeing Miss Whozis Hyphen Whatsis twirling around in a gown of an awkward colour for Miss W-W, but knowing it would look wonderful on Lucy; someone tipping a glass of iced punch or whatever in a corner somewhere; vignettes, through the character's eyes, or characters' eyes, depending on who is dominant in the scene.

Or would that really not work here?


Susan W. - May 23, 2003 10:41:07 am PDT #1379 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, the whole novel is in Lucy's first-person POV, so not really an option.


Betsy HP - May 23, 2003 10:50:49 am PDT #1380 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

But when I try to translate those images into words, they come out all dry, clinical, and mechanical.

Shitty first draft, Susan. Honestly. Get it down, then get it good.


deborah grabien - May 23, 2003 10:51:16 am PDT #1381 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Damn. Ah well.


Susan W. - May 23, 2003 11:07:43 am PDT #1382 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Shitty first draft, Susan. Honestly. Get it down, then get it good.

I'm trying. My inner perfectionist keeps taking over and saying, "No, no, that's all wrong," and I start over again. But you're right. I should just sit down and write the damn thing and not let myself look back or cross things out until it's done.


Betsy HP - May 23, 2003 11:10:05 am PDT #1383 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Let me know how that works for you.

Signed, Miss Do-What-I-Say-Not-What-I-Do


Steph L. - May 23, 2003 11:31:41 am PDT #1384 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Deb, hospital? I read the wee comment in my LJ, but...?!?


Susan W. - May 23, 2003 11:52:39 am PDT #1385 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

At least I know what I'm trying to accomplish, sort of:

Basically, for this one scene, my comedy of manners (with special bonus sexy bits!) takes a detour into the realm of fairytale. Our heroine, Lucy, has a new dress for her first ball, and it's a transformation. Until now, most of the people around her have been perceiving her as and treating her more like a 14-year-old than an 18-year-old--partly because the fond aunt who brought her up has been unwilling to let her youngest baby grow up, and partly because she's the petite one in a family of tall, curvy women, and they subconsciously have trouble realizing that a cousin/niece who's half a foot shorter and an order of magnitude flatter chested than any of them is fully grown.

In reality, Lucy is very mature for her age in almost all ways--responsible, level-headed, and clear-sighted. She is, however, quite innocent (though not ignorant) and not quite sexually awakened. So first, she needs to see herself in a new light. She's got this new dress, which she loves like any girl should love her first ball dress, and she's happy that the way it's cut makes it quite obvious that she's no child. But she's also a little frightened of herself. The dress (which I had a lot of fun imagining) is of purest virginal white, but low cut, and trimmed with a few elegant touches of crimson. Her maid has braided crimson ribbons into her dark brown hair, and replaced the gold chain on which she usually wears her amber cross (the sole ornament she owns) with a thin matching ribbon around her throat. Lucy instinctively feels, though she wouldn't have the vocabulary to describe it, that there's something very erotic about this snow-white and blood-red combination, and she's not sure what to think of herself.

So, she then needs to make her grand entrance. She's running late, so the rest of the family is already assembled at the bottom of the stairs. (The ball is at the castle where they are staying as guests, because her eldest girl cousin is engaged to its owner.) Everyone, except for clueless-but-mostly-nice boy cousin Julius, needs to immediately notice how different she looks.

Immediately thereafter, our hero (James) enters, since he and his sister are among the privileged guests invited to dinner before the ball. He hasn't made the mistake of thinking of Lucy, whom he has only recently met, as a child, but he also hasn't been attracted to her--he's impressed with her good sense and grace under pressure, which he's already had ample opportunity to observe, but if you asked him what she looked like, he'd just frown and say something about fine eyes, but he hadn't really paid that much attention. So when he sees the new Lucy, he needs to be gobsmacked, and she needs to notice. A nice little moment of breathless awareness.

If I can get through that, I think I can manage the rest.


deborah grabien - May 23, 2003 12:41:29 pm PDT #1386 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Susan, I'm just sitting here thinking how much fun that scene would be, both to write and to read.

Steph, I'll post in my LJ.