And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

Mal ,'The Train Job'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Connie Neil - Oct 18, 2002 8:03:01 pm PDT #105 of 10001
brillig

Genre is written by unshaven men in t-shirts who have half a dozen pen names and churn stuff out for the pulps. Or by blowsly women wearing tattered peignoirs (spelling?) and feathered mules with a cigarette in one corner of their mouth as they churn stuff out for what is called the "women's magazines."

Of course, I may have seen far too many Bogart/Chandler movies.

Yeah, it's formulaic. I've yet to see some "heart-warming", "realistic", "touching" movie that I couldn't play predict the plot with.

Edit: Lizard, you'll rock. It's only 'cause they say "this could impact your whole life" that you're worried. Heck, a Chevy coming in at 40 miles an hour could impact your life, too, but do we worry about that?


Alibelle - Oct 18, 2002 8:10:10 pm PDT #106 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Rebecca, you are soooo going to do fine on the PSAT. And you don't have to stay up on my account, if you are. Good luck!


Rebecca Lizard - Oct 18, 2002 8:13:33 pm PDT #107 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Yo, connie, right about until I met yis, and started watching television, and got into fandom, I was a big lit snob. Okay, not actively so, but I didn't read anything marketed as fantasy or SF, etc, and the thought of doing so never crossed my mind.

Um. I still don't, really, but at least I'm consciously not paranoidly making a virtue out of it, like rather many proudintellectuals I know.

Hammering is of the good, Alibelle. Only way to get things done.

One tiny edit yet:

She cut the line and grinned up at her companion.

I think "companion" is disorienting a word for someone we didn't know, a moment ago, that she knew prior-- I thought he was just some guy walking through. "Companion", to me, means someone you've known and have been pal[l]ing around with for at least several minutes.


Rebecca Lizard - Oct 18, 2002 8:14:25 pm PDT #108 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

It's only 'cause they say "this could impact your whole life" that you're worried.

I'm more worried because I keep screwing up in the math sections in the practice tests.


Connie Neil - Oct 18, 2002 8:26:45 pm PDT #109 of 10001
brillig

I'm headed out. Lizard, you'll do great. Ali, I might be on later, I'll check in to see if you're still about. riani1@yahoo.com if you want to drop me a line.


P.M. Marc - Oct 18, 2002 9:11:26 pm PDT #110 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Um. I still don't, really, but at least I'm consciously not paranoidly making a virtue out of it, like rather many proudintellectuals I know.

I have a whole rant on this (and you'll be a better intellectual than most because you're not doing that), about how the disconnect between lit-culture and pop-culture is such that I've started to finally understand the motivations of the Cultural Revolution, but I'll get to it later.


Katie M - Oct 18, 2002 11:38:23 pm PDT #111 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Alibelle, I'll bet Gregory Maguire would count as fiction rather than genre, and he does fairy tales - sort of. So I think you're on a good track.

Victor, that piece about Worcester made me smile because I'm looking at the same thing from the other side. I miss the past sometimes living out here.


Alibelle - Oct 18, 2002 11:42:56 pm PDT #112 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Really, Katie? Cool. Thank you guys so so much.


Katie M - Oct 18, 2002 11:46:10 pm PDT #113 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah, he's the one who did _Wicked_ and _Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister_ and, um, one other that I didn't read because I didn't like _Confessions_ all that much. But I'm pretty sure they aren't shelved in SF.


victor infante - Oct 18, 2002 11:48:14 pm PDT #114 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

You mean Lost? Lost bit. Hard.

And thanks, Katie. Don't seem tobe getting much further on it tonight.