Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Katie M - Oct 18, 2002 11:38:23 pm PDT #111 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Alibelle, I'll bet Gregory Maguire would count as fiction rather than genre, and he does fairy tales - sort of. So I think you're on a good track.

Victor, that piece about Worcester made me smile because I'm looking at the same thing from the other side. I miss the past sometimes living out here.


Alibelle - Oct 18, 2002 11:42:56 pm PDT #112 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Really, Katie? Cool. Thank you guys so so much.


Katie M - Oct 18, 2002 11:46:10 pm PDT #113 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah, he's the one who did _Wicked_ and _Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister_ and, um, one other that I didn't read because I didn't like _Confessions_ all that much. But I'm pretty sure they aren't shelved in SF.


victor infante - Oct 18, 2002 11:48:14 pm PDT #114 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

You mean Lost? Lost bit. Hard.

And thanks, Katie. Don't seem tobe getting much further on it tonight.


Beverly - Oct 19, 2002 12:10:19 am PDT #115 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Very immediate, very smelly and real, Victor. I'd be interested to read it in it's final--and any intermediate--form.

Okay, point about me. I want and expect to hear, see, taste, smell, and feel textures and pressures of things on my skin when I read. Smelly from me is good. Don't think otherwise.


Theodosia - Oct 19, 2002 8:00:58 am PDT #116 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Maguire also does a variety of kidzbooks that are actually quite good.

Alibelle, after you've written and submitted your story, I want to send you a copy of one that I wrote a bunch of years ago called "Puck in Boots: The True Story" because I think you'd get a real kick out of it. But not before, because I'm thinking we'll have ended up going to some of the same kind of places thematically. :-)


Cindy - Oct 19, 2002 11:59:34 am PDT #117 of 10001
Nobody

Victor, I loved the excerpt from your essay. I'm not looking at it from the other side, but from further on this side. I'm not in or from an old factory town, but rather Boston-bedroom communities. But I know the oldness and oddness and am suspicious of the new. I understand the old newspaper men, even though that's never been my life or even in it.

In another, a punk band thrashes to the smell of motor oil embedded in the walls.

This was the only sentence that didn't work for me. It pulled me out of your Worcester streets. The "thrashes to the smell" was just too much of a mixed metaphor. I've tried re-working it, but I don't know what to suggest instead. I think it's important to keep both the thrashing and the smell of the motor oil, I just don't know how. Your essay is so rich I'm too intimidated to muck with it.


Holli - Oct 19, 2002 7:52:07 pm PDT #118 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Okay. Here's my Common App college essay. I need it to be much shorter, I think, and lose most of the em-dashes, but all critcism is welcome.

I Was a Teenage (and Adolescent, And Childhood) Bookworm

Really, it's all "The Phantom Tollbooth"'s fault. There's no better explanation, no more fitting root cause for the person I've grown up to be. So that's got to be the reason.

You see, I am a geek. Not the pocket-protector-clad, high-water-pants-wearing, socially dysfunctional kind of geek; I'm the other kind. I'm the kind of geek who reads about the history of the English language (for fun! for fun on summer vacation!) and discusses heroic archetypes in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" on the Internet, while maintaining a few basic social skills just in case I ever need them. While I'm at it, I construct sprawling, Dickensian run-on sentences. That's just the kind of geek i am.

Assuming you haven't already moved on to the application of an all-honors valedictorian who takes quadriplegic deaf-mute war orphans into her home and learns heartwarming lessons from them, you may be wondering why, exactly, I blame "The Phantom Tollbooth" for my overwhelming geekiness. It's really quite simple. I read "The Phantom Tollbooth" when I was very young and impressionable (I'd only just graduated from picture books) and fell in love with it immediately. Outside of Dr. Seuss, I hadn't read anything with real puns or wordplay before, and so was delighted by characters like the Whether Man (who tells you whether there’s going to be weather, and isn’t that the most important thing?), King Azaz of Dictionopolis, and Tock the watchdog. “The Phantom Tollbooth” was also my first fantasy book. Before it, I hadn’t known you could just make things up like it did, or how much fun it was to do so. Since then, words and highly unlikely fictional situations have been the two great loves of my life.

Even in elementary school, I was geeky. I read Roald Dahl’s “Matilda” shortly after “The Phantom Tollbooth,” and it created, in addition to increasing my already strong love of fantasy and humor, the hope that I too could gain superpowers if I just read enough. Sadly, I still can’t lift SUVs with the sheer power of my thoughts, but there have been a few other benefits from a lifetime of bookwormishness. I’m more at home with a pen or a keyboard than most, and I have an instinctive sense for what makes good writing. The many places and casts of characters I’ve become familiar with -- talking animals, no-nonsense witches, private velociraptors, a dreamlike world beneath the streets of London, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe-- have made my disbelief about as heavy as a feather, and just as easy to suspend. The movies and television I watch reflect that familiarity with the fantastic. My favorite shows are, respectively, about a little blond girl who kills vampires and an American astronaut stranded on the far side of the universe.

Luckily for me, the Internet has made it a lot easier to be a geek. In middle school, I was embarrassed to be called a bookworm, and ashamed to be seen a brain. I blushed and stammered my way through the seventh grade, mortified that I was being taunted by people who often got better grades than me. I’m not embarrassed any more. I know geeks all over the world-- the “Buffy” discussion group I’m a part of has been going strong since I started high school-- and I’ve learned form their example. If people in such diverse situations, with lives so different and so like mine, are all proud to be geeks-- well, what’s stopping me? Besides, it’s a lot more fun to analyze the narrative structure of “Farscape” or “Firefly” than it is to track the love lives of the “Dawson’s Creek” crowd.

I still love words just as much as I did the first time I read “The Phantom Tollbooth;” to be honest, I’m a complete word nerd. I’d rather write a sonnet than free verse, and lately I’ve found myself thinking in iambic pentameter. I regard writers the way some people do rock stars-- you should’ve seen me after Neil Gaiman answered my e-mail. I’ve been known to answer questions about language in far too much detail-- after being subjected to a lengthy lecture on the origins of “uncanny,” all one friend could say was “Wow. You really are a geek.” She’s really right. I am.


victor infante - Oct 19, 2002 7:57:48 pm PDT #119 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Holli! It's excellent.


Rebecca Lizard - Oct 19, 2002 8:02:23 pm PDT #120 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

I love it.

I'm just wondering, I could be being stupid, but why

I blushed and stammered my way through the seventh grade, mortified that I was being taunted by people who often got better grades than me.

say they got better grades than you?