Poor Buffy. Your life resists all things average.

Willow ,'First Date'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kalshane - Sep 23, 2006 2:04:21 pm PDT #9860 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Ack, hope the head pain and other injury people feel better. Ick.

To all urging me to leave/check laws/etc, don't worry I've pretty much decided getting out of here is my only real option.

As for some of the specific questions, yes, I was aware we were moving to hourly, and even regretted that we hadn't yet when I was working the night shift awhile back. I was not aware our hourly pay was going to end up cut to make up for us working a 45 hour week, nor did any of my co-workers.

Just got a e-mail from my CIO chewing me out for the inappropriateness of discussing compensation in front of my peers. (I'd had replied all to an e-mail my boss had sent asking for questions for the upcoming meeting. We all knew our pay had been cut, so I had simply replied all to the group so my co-workers knew what questions I was asking to be addressed and didn't think it would be an issue. Apparently I was wrong.) He also stated that we would not be getting any form of shift differential, in response to one of my questions. Feh.


Theodosia - Sep 23, 2006 2:23:32 pm PDT #9861 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

What a tool that CIO is, truly. I'm so sorry that a good job has gone so far South.

Me, I'd be replying to him extremely politely that he'd asked for questions, and not put any restrictions on what could asked.

HR really doesn't like employees comparing compensation, not because it's impolite or "inappropriate" but because of the righteous fear that if they compare notes, inequities will become readily apparent to all.

(You know, there's a certain giddy freedom when you realize that you really have nothing to lose in an exchange -- well, I mean, aside from a job, but at this point for me it would be a relief to get let go and receive unemployment.)


Sue - Sep 23, 2006 2:28:52 pm PDT #9862 of 10001
hip deep in pie

The Rolling Stones are playing about 500 feet from my house right now.


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2006 2:29:19 pm PDT #9863 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

HR can forbid talking about compensation, right? Not that I'm saying that's the case here. Just wondering why it felt familiar.

I think it's wack, myself.

Huggers--is there a convention? Not like HugCon, but do y'all lean to your left when coming in for a hug? Cultural? National? Regional?


Kalshane - Sep 23, 2006 2:31:18 pm PDT #9864 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Me, I'd be replying to him extremely politely that he'd asked for questions, and not put any restrictions on what could asked.

This is pretty much what I did, though my boss had asked for the questions. Apparently he or the HR guy that was cced on the initial mail didn't like my questions and forwarded them to the CIO. I explained that I apparently misunderstood the initial e-mail and apologized for any breach of protocol or ettiqutte I had made, which is the truth.


meara - Sep 23, 2006 2:38:01 pm PDT #9865 of 10001

HR can forbid talking about compensation, right? Not that I'm saying that's the case here. Just wondering why it felt familiar.

They dont' like it, but I think in some states it's the law that you ARE allowed to talk about it...I have memories of this being discussed in one of the WashPost's online chats recently....


JenP - Sep 23, 2006 2:39:15 pm PDT #9866 of 10001

Huggers--is there a convention? Not like HugCon, but do y'all lean to your left when coming in for a hug?

Yes.

Cultural? National? Regional?

No idea. But now I'm curious.


DavidS - Sep 23, 2006 2:41:40 pm PDT #9867 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It is standard company policy at most places saying you can't talk about salary. State laws on whether that's allowed may differ.

The Rolling Stones are playing about 500 feet from my house right now.

How's it sound?

Happy belated birthday, btw!


DavidS - Sep 23, 2006 2:42:33 pm PDT #9868 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think I go in left shoulder on most casual hugs. That leaves my right arm free. If it's a close friend/intimate hug - full frontal press.


-t - Sep 23, 2006 2:42:44 pm PDT #9869 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Lee, on your Juniper Lee question, if it's who I think it is she used to be a Yeti. I forget her name, but she was the smartest of the Yetis (who are typically pretty dumb, apparently) and June did some sort of spell to de-hairify her so she could pass for human and go to school and stuff.