Mal: How come you didn't turn on me, Jayne? Jayne: Money wasn't good enough. Mal: What happens when it is? Jayne: Well... that'll be an interesting day.

'Serenity'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Sep 15, 2006 9:08:04 am PDT #8279 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

It's like going to Capitol Hill and being shocked by all the old white men in bad suits.

Hey! I resemble that remark! Or at least I would if I wore suits.

They seem so darned wholesome about it. Not nearly repressed enought to build up a serious kink.

I suspect the Swedes are at least as kinky as the next ethnic group. Just more matter of fact about expressing it.

I've heard the reason that homely guys are used in porn is because they use whoever has the ability to get it up on command and fuck all day for the multiple takes, and that's just a limited pool of guys to start with.

But then there's gay porn. Where, if a guy's homely, he'd better have some compensating qualities.


Fred Pete - Sep 15, 2006 9:09:28 am PDT #8280 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Southern-style baked chicken ... spinach with a little ham hock, baked sweet potato fries, yummy cornbread, salad and fruit. And for dessert, we had red velvet cake with cream cheese frosting.

I can think of three possibilities. I'll go with the obvious, Bill Clinton.


Kathy A - Sep 15, 2006 9:11:30 am PDT #8281 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'll go with the obvious, Bill Clinton.

Dingdingding! We have a winner! I thought it was the perfect Clinton meal; the writer said that the chicken was baked due to his heart issues.


megan walker - Sep 15, 2006 9:12:54 am PDT #8282 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

On the PR Fashion Week images: I'm sad to say I was disappointed by Michael's collection, although a few of the dresses were gorgeous. Uli and Jeffrey also had a couple interesting pieces. Overall, I liked Laura the best, but something other than black and beige might have been nice.


DavidS - Sep 15, 2006 9:15:05 am PDT #8283 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

This whole conversation is worth it just to add "get your bork on" to the lexicon.

I don't know how far I want to press this argument. I will note that "kink" means "bent." It's not straightforward. Same element is present in the words "deviant" and "pervert." It's an attempt to describe something that deviates from the cultural norm or goes against nature (as it is culturally understood).

Having a wholesome or healthy kinkiness is (to me) an oxymoron. I'm reminded of the exchange in a Mae West movie.

Character: "Sex is a normal, healthy activity. There's nothing dirty about it."
Mae: "It is if you do it right."

This may all be semantics. I'm not saying it's inherently pathological to do any particular activity from the kink list. You could easily have a very healthy attitude about tying up people or whatever is generally classified as kink. I'm just saying its not "Kinky" unless there's an element of compulsion or psycholigical warpage deep down. Otherwise it's just imaginative play. (Or whatever you want to call it.)


Aims - Sep 15, 2006 9:15:59 am PDT #8284 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

takes a risk

Anyone watch Survivor last night?


DavidS - Sep 15, 2006 9:17:53 am PDT #8285 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think "pathology" is the wrong term, however -- the definition of kink is going to come from how mainstream society defines "vanilla" somewhat regardless of how specific individual preferences come about.

I think this is so, though "pathology" itself is culturally defined. If you live in a society that belives that ghosts are actively moving around you, then it's not considered delusional to talk about seeing ghosts. Or demons, or were-squirrels or Undead Donut Vendors.


Jessica - Sep 15, 2006 9:18:26 am PDT #8286 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Anyone watch Survivor last night?

But of course! And you know, I liked it. I don't take the show seriously enough to be offended by it -- there was a LOT of eyerolling, but there always is, it's part of what makes the show fun.


tommyrot - Sep 15, 2006 9:18:54 am PDT #8287 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Mmmm.... undead donuts....


megan walker - Sep 15, 2006 9:21:36 am PDT #8288 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Anyone watch Survivor last night?

But of course! And you know, I liked it. I don't take the show seriously enough to be offended by it -- there was a LOT of eyerolling, but there always is, it's part of what makes the show fun.

Jessica is me.