Kinkiness requires some pathology. Without the bent element, then there's no kink.

Confused now. So, let's take our hypothetical Swede. Said Swede likes to get his bork on whilst wearing the Leia outfit from Return Of The Jedi. If it's because he enjoys it, does that mean that he is kinky or not?

I guess I'm asking if you're arguing that Swedes who like more-than-vanilla sex are not kinky or that leather/ponyplay/whathaveyou doesn't exist in Sweden.

Kinkiness requires some pathology.

I would disagree (without any proof).

Hypothetically, I think there could be a person without pathology who just likes being tied up during sex.

Said Swede likes to get his bork on

BWAH!

The poor Swedes. Somewhere some of their ears are burning.

And they're thinking it feels pretty damn good.

Said Swede likes to get his bork on

I am crying at my desk now. Especially since there is this stupid jingle on an ad (Roomstore? ) that goes "get your ___ on!" And now I'm hearing it as "get your bork on!" and oh dear oh dear....why ?

I've heard the reason that homely guys are used in porn is because they use whoever has the ability to get it up on command and fuck all day for the multiple takes, and that's just a limited pool of guys to start with.

Seemore Butts (sp) confirmed this on his 'reality' show. Apparently the male go-now/go-allnighters are few and far between. Huh...so all those guys who have tried to woo me with their prowess in this regard were...you mean they were...lying??

Shocked! I'm shocked I tell you?

Just as shocked as I am that most women don't really want that type anyway, what with the chafing, etc.

In Charles Stross' Accelerando, society is at a point where the risk of STDs is such that most young people have stopped practicing the kinds of sex where fluids are exchanged. The protagonist, who is old enough to remember missionary-style penetration, is considered extremely kinky because he'd rather just fuck than be tied up and whipped.

I think "pathology" is the wrong term, however -- the definition of kink is going to come from how mainstream society defines "vanilla" somewhat regardless of how specific individual preferences come about.

The poor Swedes. Somewhere some of their ears are burning.

I'm 1/4 Swedish. My lobes are burning.

And they're thinking it feels pretty damn good.

AIFG!

I saw this posted at a political blog--earlier this week, a group of left-wing bloggers met with a very prominent Dem politician. Can you identify who the pol was by this description of their meal?

Southern-style baked chicken ... spinach with a little ham hock, baked sweet potato fries, yummy cornbread, salad and fruit. And for dessert, we had red velvet cake with cream cheese frosting.

It's like going to Capitol Hill and being shocked by all the old white men in bad suits.

Hey! I resemble that remark! Or at least I would if I wore suits.

They seem so darned wholesome about it. Not nearly repressed enought to build up a serious kink.

I suspect the Swedes are at least as kinky as the next ethnic group. Just more matter of fact about expressing it.

I've heard the reason that homely guys are used in porn is because they use whoever has the ability to get it up on command and fuck all day for the multiple takes, and that's just a limited pool of guys to start with.

But then there's gay porn. Where, if a guy's homely, he'd better have some compensating qualities.

Southern-style baked chicken ... spinach with a little ham hock, baked sweet potato fries, yummy cornbread, salad and fruit. And for dessert, we had red velvet cake with cream cheese frosting.

I can think of three possibilities. I'll go with the obvious, Bill Clinton.