Wikipedia mentions the Rachel (as well as the ::ptui:: coleslaw "variation"): [link]
And in my part of the world you get this: [link] but the cheese isn't melted
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Trudy Booth - Aug 04, 2006 12:50:52 pm PDT #816 of 10001
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Emily - Aug 04, 2006 12:51:37 pm PDT #817 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
So if it's sour or sweet cabbage, still a rueben.
Eh... I get what you're saying, but I think the difference between sauerkraut and cole slaw is vast enough that their common ancestor doesn't provide enough of a link.
-t - Aug 04, 2006 12:51:54 pm PDT #818 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
All this sandwich talk is kind of making me want a tuna noodle casserole.
It doesn't make sense to me either, but there it is.
Jesse - Aug 04, 2006 12:51:59 pm PDT #819 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I can kind of understand using Reuben more like Club -- a real club sandwich is turkey and bacon and triple decker, but I'm OK with there being a chicken club on a roll or whatever. I guess.
Tom Scola - Aug 04, 2006 12:52:22 pm PDT #820 of 10001
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I don't know of anything else that mixes cabbage and russian dressing.
I would be surprised if there weren't a coleslaw recipie that called for both mayonnaise and ketchup.
Sean K - Aug 04, 2006 12:52:32 pm PDT #821 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Honestly, I'm willing to allow a substitution of meat, or even of cheese, but the sauerkraut is what makes it a Reuben. Otherwise, what can't you change? "Can I have a turkey Reuben with cole slaw and provolone, no dressing, on sourdough?"
How can we possibly know that the rueben on dark rye with corned beef rather than pastrami, sauerkraut rather than coleslaw, and thousand island rather than Russian dressing, is the version that came first? We can't. It's ineffable. All we are left with then is one sandwich with many forms. How can we Earthly beings then say this sandwich is one of the forms, but this other is not? That is only for the One True Sandwich to know, if such a Rueben even exists.
Aims - Aug 04, 2006 12:53:29 pm PDT #822 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
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Sean K - Aug 04, 2006 12:55:20 pm PDT #823 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I can kind of understand using Reuben more like Club -- a real club sandwich is turkey and bacon and triple decker, but I'm OK with there being a chicken club on a roll or whatever. I guess.
I've never been able to figure out which was the vital component of the Club -- that it is made with turkey and bacon, or that it is a triple-decker.
-t - Aug 04, 2006 12:56:00 pm PDT #824 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
"Reuben and Rachel" is a song, isn't it?
Reuben, Reuben, I've been thinking
etc.
§ ita § - Aug 04, 2006 12:56:32 pm PDT #825 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Primacy is not the only key to authenticity. What adheres to the creator's intention? What would improve upon it, even in their own estimation? These must be considered when judging the Reuben.
Except, of course, in that it contains cabbage and is intrinsically disgusting.