Um, well, we listened to aggressively cheerful music sung by people chosen for their ability to dance. Then we ate cookie dough, and talked about boys.

Giles ,'Get It Done'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 08, 2006 4:40:01 pm PDT #6970 of 10001
What is even happening?

Even for third-hand suffering? If I'm profoundly upset over something that happened to someone else, but no laws were broken, surely I can't sue for my resulting mental anguish.

I have no idea. The point in bringing that up wasn't that someone could sue for mental anguish over this particular act. My comment was offered to show the state does not keep itself out of things where the only damange done is mental anguish.

That said, I'm not sure where the line would be drawn as to who is a third party, where damages are concerned. If you have some rights (as next of kin) concerning a corpse, and someone abuses that corpse, are they abusing your property, or violating your rights? Good questions to which I have no answer.

If Joe Smith has sex with his dead wife (of natural causes) I think it's nasty. If someone steals or misappropriates the corpse to have sex with it--the crime starts with the misappropriation. Or the murder.

That is quite simply my point.

Fair enough. The discussion grew out of your saying you took no issue with people having sex with corpses. You didn't give particulars, nor did you seem to either know or acknowledge how most corpses are used for sex. It doesn't generally seem to be a case of someone having sex with the corpse of a lover who consented to sex with them, during their lives, and even then, unless the lover said, "Do what you want with me after I'm dead," I don't think it's irrational, or purely emotional to call it wrong.


msbelle - Sep 08, 2006 4:46:53 pm PDT #6971 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

So I never saw QaF, but who was my favorite person on all those VH1 80s/90s/BWE whatever shows? Hal Sparks

Now who am I loving on the trainwreck that is Celebrity Duets? HAL "who knew he had that big 'ol voice" Sparks!!


sarameg - Sep 08, 2006 4:48:36 pm PDT #6972 of 10001

psst... msbelle loves a trainwreck!


msbelle - Sep 08, 2006 4:50:39 pm PDT #6973 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

msbelle is decompressing and was gonna have to clean in order to soak in the tub. tv was easier.


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2006 4:54:49 pm PDT #6974 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You didn't give particulars,

I did give particulars. You accused me of changing my point when I went into more detail.

nor did you seem to either know or acknowledge how most corpses are used for sex.

Don't mistake not caring for not knowing.

See, you haven't explained to me what is inherently wrong with eating or having sex with a corpse. You've explained to me situations in which it's wrong, but you're refining the general point too.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 08, 2006 4:59:18 pm PDT #6975 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

KALSHANE QUIT YOUR JOB BEEEEEEP

SERIOUSLY, dude. You're not going to find another job while you're sleep deprived and soon to be in the hospital from driving around half asleep. Quit now, get rest, find new job. Simple! And you'd have only had to deal with this bullshittery a minimum amount of time and be able to move on with the next stage of your professional life.

Because, you will be in the same situation if you hang on till something else comes along. You'll be TOO TIRED to grab it! QUIT NOW.

The ASSCAPS are to get your attention, because I know you are wiped out.

Quit. Monday. Screw 'em. They certainly have no problem screwing you.


msbelle - Sep 08, 2006 5:04:41 pm PDT #6976 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

it's nasty, it's disrespectful, and in virtually all cultures at least the eating of has been seen as socially and legally unacceptable.

I am gonna operate without hard facts linked to and I'm not gonna look for them, but I think that in Western Society, at least, sex has been a heavily restricted by laws for all sorts of things. Makes at least historic sense that it would be in this case.

Do I care if people do it, not really sure, but I am not sure I'd want to be part of a society that said it was ok.

Since I doubt the jails are clogged up because of either of these crimes, I'm good with them being on the books.


brenda m - Sep 08, 2006 5:06:29 pm PDT #6977 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Check to be sure, but I believe that getting switched to third shift (and to a far location) is one of those things where you can quit and still get unemployment. But you have to do it fairly quickly.


Laura - Sep 08, 2006 5:07:57 pm PDT #6978 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Kalshane, what Nora said, so well.

Cashmere, I'm so sorry. Unreal. He is so lucky that you have his back.

Ignoring sex with corpse discussion.

Poor msbelle. I hope tomorrow is more comfortable. Ick.

Tired. Feet up. Watching SciFi. Loving that I don't have to get up early tomorrow. Whee!


Cashmere - Sep 08, 2006 5:10:21 pm PDT #6979 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Ignoring sex with corpse discussion.

Me, too.

I'm calmer now that I've had bread pudding. Bread pudding always makes things better.

It doesn't feel like Friday night to me. It feels more Saturday night.