Wait. People? She eats people? 'To Serve Man.' It's 'To Serve Man' all over again.

Gunn ,'Power Play'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Sep 08, 2006 3:34:50 pm PDT #6962 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Man, Cashmere, it's a crazy fucking world when your nephew's DUI is the GOOD news.

t continues to nuggle


JZ - Sep 08, 2006 3:48:46 pm PDT #6963 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh, geez, Cashmere, what an utter nightmare. And the nurse who oops-forgot and everyone she works for who's just shrugging and saying Oh well, nothing we can do about it now deserve to be drop-kicked into oblivion. It's your brother's health and his life at stake, and your family is giving 110% to make it easier for the authorities to care for him, and they're not doing shit. Gah. I'm getting all knotted-up with rage on all your behalfs.


Cashmere - Sep 08, 2006 3:56:12 pm PDT #6964 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Man, Cashmere, it's a crazy fucking world when your nephew's DUI is the GOOD news.

Heh. That's my family. We put the "fun" in dysfunctional!

I'm trying not to stew and looking at it like this: he's not in immediate danger and he's got family inside looking out for him. Not to mention vocally supportive and activist types (me) following up on the outside. It could be much, much worse.

I'm going to finish my bread pudding and try to relax knowing there isn't anything I can do right now from here.

DH is trying to distract me with Scarface on AMC.


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2006 4:00:55 pm PDT #6965 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cashmere, that's sheerly appalling. I'm so sorry.

The case files are not overflowing with tales of spouses, lovers and friends, having one for the road. In more than half the documented cases, the perp is a person who works a job as an orderly, morgue worker, cemetery worker, or the like--where he will have access to corpses in order to use for sex.

Not having a problem with necrophilia doesn't mean that every instance of necrophilia is equally unproblematic. Am I allowed that point of view?

In one study of a group of perps, 42% of them murdered the person whose corpse they then used.

Dude. You've just killed a person. One of the crimes is bigger than the other, right?

If Joe Smith has sex with his dead wife (of natural causes) I think it's nasty. If someone steals or misappropriates the corpse to have sex with it--the crime starts with the misappropriation. Or the murder.

That is quite simply my point.


sarameg - Sep 08, 2006 4:02:13 pm PDT #6966 of 10001

Jeez, people had a bad day. I feel like I should come armed with antibiotics, painkillers and knee-whackers to pass out.

Did you know that going 20 mph over the speed limit is a misdemeanor charge in VA? A friend of mine learned that the hard way. She's kind of having fits about it because she's a canadian citizen (married to an US citizen) with a greencard, but I think she's pursuing citizenship. She's thinking she should get a lawyer, instead of just throwing herself contritely on the mercy of the court and hope it gets reduced to just a fine because of the implications. VAers have any comments on this?

Old gold moon rising with wisps of cloud blackening it. Positively halloweenish.


Strega - Sep 08, 2006 4:12:15 pm PDT #6967 of 10001

The law regularly renders judgments regarding mental anguish, and will award damages in such cases where mental anguish is proved, even when physical injury is absent
Even for third-hand suffering? If I'm profoundly upset over something that happened to someone else, but no laws were broken, surely I can't sue for my resulting mental anguish.

I mean, if I can, I'm going to have to see a lawyer immediately.


Kalshane - Sep 08, 2006 4:13:50 pm PDT #6968 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Timelies,

So. Damn. Tired. I almost nodded off on the drive into work this afternoon. I got to sleep at 8 this morning, got woken up by a wrong number at 10am (and promptly unplugged my phone) and then my landlord (unaware I'm working nights this week) started mowing the lawn at 1pm, which meant, since my bedroom windows are at ground level and right behind the bed, that the lawn mower was literally 2 feet from my head at points. There was no sleeping until he finished. I actually slept through my alarm for over a minute when it went off at 3pm.

Spoke with my boss. He asked HR about getting me a shift differential and OT for this week. HR said I was SOL because I'm salary. Nevermind I'm not supposed to be salary anymore and HR was supposed to get me switched months ago. Asshats! And I get to repeat the whole thing again next week. Joy. We're having a meeting on Monday to discuss everyone's new official schedules, which means I may have to wake up during the day to attend. Whee.

There's no one here, the phone isn't ringing, my head hurts and I just want to curl up under a desk and sleep, but I'm afraid if I do I'll end up sleeping through half the night, which I can't do since there's processes and such that need to be started and reports run on a set schedule.

Man, Cashmere, it's a crazy fucking world when your nephew's DUI is the GOOD news.

Yes, this. I'm sure miss nurse would be less "oops, tee-hee" if someone forgot to pay her.

(Edited because afternoon!=morning, even if my brain would like to think so right now.)


JenP - Sep 08, 2006 4:39:30 pm PDT #6969 of 10001

Cashmere, that's appalling, infuriating, rage-inducing. I am so sorry.

Kalshane - asshats, indeed. Grr.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 08, 2006 4:40:01 pm PDT #6970 of 10001
What is even happening?

Even for third-hand suffering? If I'm profoundly upset over something that happened to someone else, but no laws were broken, surely I can't sue for my resulting mental anguish.

I have no idea. The point in bringing that up wasn't that someone could sue for mental anguish over this particular act. My comment was offered to show the state does not keep itself out of things where the only damange done is mental anguish.

That said, I'm not sure where the line would be drawn as to who is a third party, where damages are concerned. If you have some rights (as next of kin) concerning a corpse, and someone abuses that corpse, are they abusing your property, or violating your rights? Good questions to which I have no answer.

If Joe Smith has sex with his dead wife (of natural causes) I think it's nasty. If someone steals or misappropriates the corpse to have sex with it--the crime starts with the misappropriation. Or the murder.

That is quite simply my point.

Fair enough. The discussion grew out of your saying you took no issue with people having sex with corpses. You didn't give particulars, nor did you seem to either know or acknowledge how most corpses are used for sex. It doesn't generally seem to be a case of someone having sex with the corpse of a lover who consented to sex with them, during their lives, and even then, unless the lover said, "Do what you want with me after I'm dead," I don't think it's irrational, or purely emotional to call it wrong.


msbelle - Sep 08, 2006 4:46:53 pm PDT #6971 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

So I never saw QaF, but who was my favorite person on all those VH1 80s/90s/BWE whatever shows? Hal Sparks

Now who am I loving on the trainwreck that is Celebrity Duets? HAL "who knew he had that big 'ol voice" Sparks!!