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Xander ,'End of Days'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2006 3:57:33 am PDT #6815 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

imagine it's your mother's corpse.

How did they legally obtain the corpse? I can't imagine anyone letting them have it, least of all me.

Honestly, though, I don't seem to be as attached to the shell as your question implies you expect. Cremation or cheap box with little embalming--those'll work for me. The sucking vacuum left in my life by people's deaths is the big deal. Their corpse is not.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 08, 2006 4:04:52 am PDT #6816 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I haven't watched Eureka. Is it too late to jump into it, now?

I see no one got back to you on this, and I'd say not too late. The premise is pretty straight forward and it has not been, too date, terribly arc-y. There are a few things that might not be clear from a random episode, but it's definitely not hard to start in on (especially since Sci-Fi has been airing them out of order anyway).


Sue - Sep 08, 2006 4:32:07 am PDT #6817 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Speaking of Eureka, in Canada, it's premiering on Space this Sunday: [link]


Topic!Cindy - Sep 08, 2006 4:38:15 am PDT #6818 of 10001
What is even happening?

How did they legally obtain the corpse? I can't imagine anyone letting them have it, least of all me.
You said you had no issue with people eating or having sex with dead people. You didn't say you had no issue with people eating or having sex with corpses to which they somehow have some legal claim. Any legal claim on a corpse is limited by laws on proper handling, other than those outlawing necrophilia and cannibalism, anyhow.
The sucking vacuum left in my life by people's deaths is the big deal. Their corpse is not.
Of course the loss is far more important than the final disposition of their shell. But there's no reason for this to suddenly become an either/or proposition.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 08, 2006 4:39:11 am PDT #6819 of 10001
What is even happening?

I see no one got back to you on this, and I'd say not too late. The premise is pretty straight forward and it has not been, too date, terribly arc-y. There are a few things that might not be clear from a random episode, but it's definitely not hard to start in on (especially since Sci-Fi has been airing them out of order anyway).

Thanks, Frank.


sarameg - Sep 08, 2006 4:41:06 am PDT #6820 of 10001

Soon, everyone will know about you and lori and the gun!

I still want to dive under the table. Or behind a couch.

I've been going to sleep earlier. And waking up tireder. Not right. I love sleep. Why is it not loving me back?


Connie Neil - Sep 08, 2006 4:52:05 am PDT #6821 of 10001
brillig

There's a cold rain falling on Utah. Snow in the mountains. It won't stick, but it's a sign of things to come. The trees started turning red days ago.

Thank god, I'm sick of summer and ready for a nice leisurely autumn.


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2006 4:52:49 am PDT #6822 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You said you had no issue with people eating or having sex with dead people

I have no issue with people eating beef either. However, they don't get to eat *my* beef willy nilly. You wouldn't infer that from my first sentence, would you?

Any legal claim on a corpse is limited by laws on proper handling, other than those outlawing necrophilia and cannibalism, anyhow.

As far as I can tell, under normal circumstance only the legal system has the right to override the next of kin's insistence that the corpse remain buried. So how did this person get their hands on my mother's corpse?

You've appealed to my emotional response. What I think is more important is my logical response. I don't see why I should care. Plenty of people already eat things I think are nasty and perform sex acts that make me wince and look away. I'm not about to start outlawing them because I think they are gross. I'd only want to outlaw them if I thought they were wrong.


Megan E. - Sep 08, 2006 4:53:50 am PDT #6823 of 10001

'Alias' Star Acker Welcomes Baby Ava

Alias star Amy Acker and her husband James Carpinello have welcomed a daughter named Ava Grace. The baby, who weighed in at 7 lbs 4 oz, was born last Friday in Los Angeles. Ava joins older brother Jackson James, who is 19 months old. Acker's representative tells American publication People, "Amy, James and Jackson are enjoying the new addition to their family." The 29-year-old star played Jennifer Garner's nemesis Kelly Peyton on the show and also played Winifred "Fred" Burkle on the Buffy The Vampire Slayer spinoff Angel.


Jessica - Sep 08, 2006 5:01:22 am PDT #6824 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't see why I should care. Plenty of people already eat things I think are nasty and perform sex acts that make me wince and look away. I'm not about to start outlawing them because I think they are gross. I'd only want to outlaw them if I thought they were wrong.

ita is me. The "ick" factor shouldn't be a moral or legal consideration.

(And on the original horse question as well...whether or not the desire to be licked all over by horses is bestiality is separate from whether it's sexual assault on the horse. There's no coersion involved, and I doubt that the difference between licking oats off a chest and eating them out of a hand is readily apparent to the horse.)