Okay, that makes sense. Is that a play on "The Lurkers Support Me in Email" do you think?
Uh, are we gonna fight, or is there just gonna be a monster sarcasm rally?
Stoner Vamp ,'Lessons'
Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Allyson - Sep 06, 2006 2:22:37 pm PDT #6428 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Lee - Sep 06, 2006 2:25:52 pm PDT #6429 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I want a milkshake, which is weird, since I don't normally like them very much.
§ ita § - Sep 06, 2006 2:27:29 pm PDT #6430 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It would be really cool if I could work out how to get Project to show me a list of the tasks with completion dates in the next two weeks in a format I can cut and paste into emails or Word.
It is weird that I'm not sure how much of the silhouette of my shoulders is me and how much is the clothing. My traps may have achieved a life of their own.
And I'd really like to stop shying away from things that make me think of Marni.
JZ - Sep 06, 2006 2:29:19 pm PDT #6431 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Stepping in a bit late, but please count me in among the "No such thing as too much Mac news" crowd.
Lee - Sep 06, 2006 2:30:26 pm PDT #6432 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
JZ! How are you? Today was the day you find out about bedrest leavage, right?
How did it go?
Jessica - Sep 06, 2006 2:33:50 pm PDT #6433 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
It follows that every observation of something which is not black and also not a raven is evidence that ravens are black. This is patently absurd.
Well...no. I mean, first you have to prove that ravens exist in the first place. And then you have to look at everything else in existance and determine that all of the nonblack things that exist are not ravens. (Which may be what is meant above by "every observation," but the way it's worded, it sounds like they think looking at a carrot and realizing it's orange is proof that all ravens are black. Which is patently absurd, but it's not how logic works.)
Jesse - Sep 06, 2006 2:37:33 pm PDT #6434 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
JZ, are you still on house arrest?? I would seriously be bonkers by now. And I hate Doing Things.
Speaking of which, I really need to be neatening and straightening in preparation for going out of town, but ugh. Also packing, but that will take 10 minutes.
I am the laziest lazy who every lazed.
Also, I was ridiculously weirded out by leaving work for two days. I think it's because of the lack of lead time for mental preparation.
Cass - Sep 06, 2006 2:38:09 pm PDT #6435 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Woke up this morning with a pain in my hip(actually in the area where the leg meets the hip).Ouch. I get that but it's tendonitis. Mine's been aching again and I am pretending that stretching is going to help. Don't wanna play with the big bad needles if I can help it.
§ ita § - Sep 06, 2006 2:38:56 pm PDT #6436 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
First you have to prove that ravens exist in the first place. And then you have to look at everything else in existance and determine that all of the nonblack things that exist are not ravens
Although I'd wager that the existence of ravens can be assumed axiomatic (as can the definition of black, say) in this case, they don't need to exist for the bare logic to flow.
What we are assuming is that ravens are black--which means that all nonblack things are ravens, by definition. The paradox seems to arise when you try and prove that assumption by observation--every black raven should then carry the same supportive weight as every orange carrot.
Which...doesn't work. Which is what's absurd. And paradoxical. Or perhaps you could just not try and prove all ravens are black by pointing out black ravens.
At least I think that's what I mean. Gotta go back to Project.
tommyrot - Sep 06, 2006 2:40:40 pm PDT #6437 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Yeah. If you look at a carrot and notice it's orange, that does not disprove that all ravens are black, but that's it. Just because it doesn't disprove "all ravens are black" it it's not evidence that the statement is true. It's not "evidence" (in the classical logic sense) at all. (eta: it says nothing about the assertion either way, as it is not proof.) Jessica is right - the only possible evidence is either find one non-black raven and disprove the assertion, or find every nonblack thing that exists and show that they are not ravens, thus proving the assertion.