Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Aug 03, 2006 2:22:03 pm PDT #454 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh. My. God. (Like Aimee's post, this is also Mel-related.)

On his Fox News program, Bill O'Reilly called Mel Gibson's recent anti-Semitic comments "inexcusable," but said it is "more important" to discuss the "point where the media and individual Americans start to enjoy the suffering of rich and powerful people." Guest Geraldo Rivera later suggested that O'Reilly refer to "that schmuck from MSNBC," apparently MSNBC host Keith Olbermann; Rivera added that the "schmuck from MSNBC" is a "lowlife." Rivera also asserted that Comedy Central hosts Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert "make a living putting on video of old ladies slipping on ice and people laughing" and that they "exist in a small little place where they count for nothing."

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O'Reilly declared that media figures who have criticized Gibson's remarks are "smear merchants" who have "blood all over their mouth, these vampires," and also targeted the "corporate masters" behind them, who are "the truly evil people."


JohnSweden - Aug 03, 2006 2:22:22 pm PDT #455 of 10001
I can't even.

Howdy, Empress!

Mel's a choob, eh? But I think that's someone else's gag.


Tom Scola - Aug 03, 2006 2:22:50 pm PDT #456 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

88°!!!


Aims - Aug 03, 2006 2:23:49 pm PDT #457 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

What is 98 degrees minus Nick Lachey?


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 03, 2006 2:24:28 pm PDT #458 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh. My. Gawd.

Am I cynical to immediately assume that the "free pennies" are a veiled dig at stereotypical thriftiness? It may be that Mel can do no right in my view, but that's where my mind went the second I looked at that picture.


Aims - Aug 03, 2006 2:25:33 pm PDT #459 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

JohnSweden - Aug 03, 2006 2:27:18 pm PDT #460 of 10001
I can't even.

Am I cynical to immediately assume that the "free pennies" are a veiled dig at stereotypical thriftiness? It may be that Mel can do no right in my view, but that's where my mind went the second I looked at that picture.

What did the Scots ever do to Gibson? He owes us big time for the fucking Braveheart atrocity, that MADE him! Why, he ... what?

Oh. Never mind.


Kristen - Aug 03, 2006 2:27:27 pm PDT #461 of 10001

What is 98 degrees minus Nick Lachey?

-101 degrees.


Strega - Aug 03, 2006 2:28:45 pm PDT #462 of 10001

Is there any breakdown of that more than half by specific faith/sect

I can probably dig up something on that tomorrow if nobody's turned up anything before then. I'm home now, so I don't have access to the Polling Database Of Dooooom.

I could certainly see myself picking "literally true" in a survey, if there wasn't another description that better fit my beliefs, and yet I'm far from a biblical literalist on a lot of issues

If I remember right the options were, the Bible is the word of god and everything in it is literally true, word for word; or, the Bible is the word of god but not everything in it should be taken literally. Plus don't know, refused, & other. And then the ABC poll had the "literally true, meaning it happened that way word-for-word; or meant as a lesson, but not to be taken literally?" distinction. Would you have picked the first choice in both of those?

I can try to dig up some documentation to confirm this, but in ongoing surveys like this they typically do debriefings to make sure the questions are being understood as intended. That "literally, word for word" phrasing turned up in a lot of polls by different organizations, which makes me think it's been vetted. And that "word for word" was added to make it very clear what "literal" meant.

I think what Strega is getting at is that the questions were very specific; even when questioned about specific events like the time for creation of the earth and the age of the planet, respondents still claimed they believed in the literal truth.

Well, partly. My point is that when you ask "is the entire Bible literally true?" you get 30-40%. When you ask "is this one part of the Bible literally true?" you get 60-70% -- which makes sense, because it's gonna be all the people who think every part is literally true, plus a subset of people who don't. If the numbers went down when you were specific, or even stayed about the same, I'd find it easier to believe that people misunderstood the first question.


Aims - Aug 03, 2006 2:29:06 pm PDT #463 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Damn. I never get those Jeopardy questions right.