I got stabbed, you know, right here.

Mal ,'Shindig'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Aug 02, 2006 10:11:15 am PDT #39 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

::preens::

::internally joggled by excessive preening, belches horrifically::


Laura - Aug 02, 2006 10:14:00 am PDT #40 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

NOTE TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T WATCH COLBERT

Thank you! I watch Colbert from time to time but leave with the feeling I'm being yelled at.


erikaj - Aug 02, 2006 10:17:25 am PDT #41 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

The Word is my favorite. Or when he debates himself. I used to identify with Job Way Too Much, ftr. I doubt I could ever be that faithful in actual fact, but as an Arizona Democrat, you'd see where I'd get confused.


Nutty - Aug 02, 2006 10:18:50 am PDT #42 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I just don't have an investment in reading Job (or, really, most of the Biblical stories) with authorial intent aforethought. For one thing, I don't share the author's presumable faith. For another, narrative is all the power I need out of a story (thus reading God as a character is exactly the speed I'm at). Putting God-the-character in the therapist role, or the sadist role, or the prankster role, or the dad-who-needs-Valium role even, is as close as I can get to relating to a story that involves religious figures.

Besides, even God needs a Secret Pain, don't you think? Okay, possibly that is blasphemy, but I like to think it is empathetic blasphemy!


Gudanov - Aug 02, 2006 10:20:26 am PDT #43 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I see the Bible in general as a recording of a people's history, law, and wisdom and the wisdom parts in particular are conveyed through stories. So the story of Job and of Abraham and Issac don't really seem so terrible to me. The wisdom is the part to take out of it rather than the story.

However, I find people who insist that every word of the Bible is literally true to be odd. In that context, killing off someone's children because God is making a bet with Satan is pretty darn distrubing.

Of course that are many people who think I need to be fixed to see divinity instead of humanity in those stories and histories, but I don't see it, it's not in my worldview. Still an interesting book though.


Vortex - Aug 02, 2006 10:21:35 am PDT #44 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I watch Colbert from time to time but leave with the feeling I'm being yelled at.

It's why I don't watch Colbert. It's funny occasionally , but he totally wears it out.


Sean K - Aug 02, 2006 10:21:44 am PDT #45 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Aw, Sean, don't make me repost my cracky V theory again, please?

I liked the theory, though. Even if it is cracktastic.

Actually the two characters in the Bible (yes, I am continuing to treat it as a narrative) I have the most sympathy with are Lucifer Morningstar and Judas Iscariot. In both cases, they were merely doing their Part in the Plan, and really got the crap end of the deal for their troubles.


Vortex - Aug 02, 2006 10:22:35 am PDT #46 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

huh, I never knew that Lucifer had a last name. Thought he was like Prince.


sumi - Aug 02, 2006 10:23:12 am PDT #47 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Doesn't Lucifer mean "Morningstar"?


Jessica - Aug 02, 2006 10:24:31 am PDT #48 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Besides, even God needs a Secret Pain, don't you think? Okay, possibly that is blasphemy, but I like to think it is empathetic blasphemy!

Wouldn't this support JZ'a God-as-V theory?

(Which...honestly, to me, doesn't seem to make anyone come off any better. God is a psychotic terrorist, and Job is a ex-wannabe-prostitute with Stockholm syndrome and daddy issues?)