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'The Message'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Aug 21, 2006 12:58:54 pm PDT #3815 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I always thought a mace was one solid piece and a flail had a handle with a chain connected to something.


tommyrot - Aug 21, 2006 1:00:07 pm PDT #3816 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yeah, that's what Wikipedia is saying... but I always thought a mace could have a chain too. I guess not.


Sheryl - Aug 21, 2006 1:01:13 pm PDT #3817 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Bleah. I'm tired, have a headache that won't go away and the usual assortment of muscle aches. Feh....


Kalshane - Aug 21, 2006 1:07:09 pm PDT #3818 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I always thought a mace was one solid piece and a fail had a handle with a chain connected to something

Yup. Flail is pretty much a mace or morningstar with a chain in between the handle and head.

The camp didn't have any flails to play with. The weapon shop did, but they were in case and I didn't want to ask them to open it up for something I wasn't going to buy.


Gudanov - Aug 21, 2006 1:08:23 pm PDT #3819 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Things I've learned from playing D&D once.


Glamcookie - Aug 21, 2006 1:18:24 pm PDT #3820 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

For future reference on writing letters of recommendation:

If you cannot provide a positive recommendation in support of the individual’s candidacy, please decline to write a letter or to serve as a reference. Provide information to the individual as to why you have declined to serve as a reference.

First, when student asks for letter, understand what is being asked of you. What is the letter for? What does the student expect from you? Carefully consider whether you feel that you can write a positive letter. If you feel that you cannot wholeheartedly recommend the student, it’s your ethical responsibility to inform him or her that you’re not the right person for the job.


Strix - Aug 21, 2006 1:40:48 pm PDT #3821 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Well, it seemed like Kat did write a pos rec -- just not as pos as the kid wanted.

Kat, explain that you only revise rec letters if they contain inaccurate info. Otherwise, it's your policy of one letter, one try.

Or you could be totally honest: tell her you like her and she is a fine student, but that this school has extremely high academic expectations, and with her present skill set, you do not believe she would flousih in this environment. If she is in your classes, you can tell her you will reassess her skill level and be willing to write a rec letter at the end of the year if she has attained the skills necessary to thrive.

It's a toughie.


sarameg - Aug 21, 2006 1:46:40 pm PDT #3822 of 10001

The only thing I can think of, short of honesty or an unexplained no, is if you have any weasel room on whether you are qualified to comment on whether she meets the requirements specifically.

Also, how weird on them sending the letter back to her. I mean, I can see why a kindly administrator might, but it just seems set up wrong.


Glamcookie - Aug 21, 2006 1:49:01 pm PDT #3823 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I'm sorry, I guess the rec letter is touching a nerve since I just went through the graduate school application process. The thought of someone who didn't believe in me writing me a lackluster letter just fills me with dread. Fortunately, mine were good and I got in. While I know it would be horrendous to have to tell someone that you can't write the letter, it's better for her/him to know up front. Then s/he can do a bit of soul-searching to see if s/he truly feels s/he has what it takes, and/or try to find someone else that does believe s/he has what it takes. And if s/he can't find that other someone, then it's time to face the hard facts.


amych - Aug 21, 2006 1:58:27 pm PDT #3824 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I agree with GC -- one of my recommenders for my first shot at grad school was notorious for agreeing to recommend, I dunno, random bums he encountered on the street, and then sending in letters that said little more than "Ms. so-and-so has an adequate grasp of the English language." Since I didn't know this about him until after a bunch of rejections, I'd really rather he'd said, "look, I think you should ask someone else."

As for the school telling the student that it was because of your rec, though, I'm shocked. If they want to give her an opening to resubmit her application (or even if they just liked her enough to let her down easy rather than giving her an unalloyed "no"), they can easily say "these are the areas you need to focus on for next time" or "maybe if you got an additional letter from someone who can specifically address XYZ"... not "Ms. Kat said you weren't good enough", which isn't so much kindly as, well, buck-passing.