I just said that you're pretty. Even when you're covered in...engine grease, you're... No, especially, especially when you're covered in engine grease.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Aug 17, 2006 9:57:12 am PDT #3208 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

They could say that he "statutorily raped" her, I suppose.

That was going to be my next question -- when it's a clear-cut case of statutory rape (at minimum), is it still libel to say so? (Since saying "statutory rape" doesn't define anything legally except for their respective ages.)


Kathy A - Aug 17, 2006 9:57:46 am PDT #3209 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

These wackjobs hating "heliocentrism" (gee, everything is relative, isn't it?) just make me want to call for Buzz Aldrin to deck the guy, just like he did the Flat Earther a few years back.


Fred Pete - Aug 17, 2006 9:58:22 am PDT #3210 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

He can say he had sex with a six-year-old and and we can't call it rape?

As I understand it, the media have to be more careful at this point. Which is why the word "alleged" appears so often in stories of this kind.

But I pegged this guy as hopelessly creepy when the media said that he said he loved her.


amych - Aug 17, 2006 9:59:10 am PDT #3211 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think the heliocentrism thing was meant as snark.


tommyrot - Aug 17, 2006 9:59:46 am PDT #3212 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

These wackjobs hating "heliocentrism" (gee, everything is relative, isn't it?) just make me want to call for Buzz Aldrin to deck the guy, just like he did the Flat Earther a few years back.

They could be superheros! The "Ex-Astronaut Truth Team" or somesuch. (Astronauts all have superpowers as a result to exposure to cosmic rays, right?)


Vortex - Aug 17, 2006 10:01:40 am PDT #3213 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

That was going to be my next question -- when it's a clear-cut case of statutory rape (at minimum), is it still libel to say so? (Since saying "statutory rape" doesn't define anything legally except for their respective ages.)

Well, theoretically he could be found not guilty (how, I don't know, but stranger things have happened), and there would not be a conviction, which would mean legally he 's not guilty of statutory rape.

I think that the papers would stay away from it.


tommyrot - Aug 17, 2006 10:02:38 am PDT #3214 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think the heliocentrism thing was meant as snark.

Yeah, now that I've read the rest of the site - you're right.

Bah.


bon bon - Aug 17, 2006 10:05:31 am PDT #3215 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Things that do not bother me:

  • There are people who do not believe the earth revolves around the sun.
  • Newspapers that avoid inferring or implying crimes. Especially if I know all I need to know from the neutral language they do employ.

Incidentally this guy's confession still seems sketchy to me. He might just be a wackjob obsessed with the case. He has kids-- they don't notice he went to Colorado on Christmas?


Tom Scola - Aug 17, 2006 10:07:59 am PDT #3216 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

He has kids-- they don't notice he went to Colorado on Christmas?

In fact, they interviewed the ex-wife, and she gave him an alibi: [link]


flea - Aug 17, 2006 10:08:11 am PDT #3217 of 10001
information libertarian

I have to say, the New York Times article on the Ramsey story is making me wonder if this guy, while probably a nut and a pedophile, had anything to do with it. His ex-wife, who divorced him the year he was charged as a pedophile, says he was home with their family in Alabama at Christmas 1996, and also that he was obsessed with the Ramsey (and Polly Klass) cases.

Also I can't help wondering if he was teaching in Fay's new school!