Giles: I'm sure we're all perfectly safe. Dawn: We're safe. Right. And Spike built a robot Buffy to play checkers with. Tara: It sounded convincing when I thought it.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Aug 11, 2006 1:48:16 pm PDT #2154 of 10001

RageGirl is home and took a nice long hot shower, which has cranked her down to irked.

Chicken cooking.


Allyson - Aug 11, 2006 2:12:35 pm PDT #2155 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm going to sarameg's for dinner.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2006 2:33:08 pm PDT #2156 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know. Her irk gives me pause.


sarameg - Aug 11, 2006 3:35:58 pm PDT #2157 of 10001

It was half a freaking HUGE chicken breast, in a ginger soy marinate. I have another half left. Some broccoli too.

Irk means I no longer want to stab people. Hit them, sure. But I'll use a nerf bat.

NOW on PBS is talking to Anna Devere Smith. I'd love to see one of her performances.


sarameg - Aug 11, 2006 3:58:19 pm PDT #2158 of 10001

Interesting thought from her, that she attributed to Cornell West: “Optimism and hope are different. Optimism tends to be based on the notion that there’s enough evidence to allow us to think things are going to be better. . . . Whereas hope looks at the evidence and says it doesn’t look good at all, but we’re going to go beyond the evidence to create new possibilities.”


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2006 4:02:00 pm PDT #2159 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Interesting. I wouldn't say that hope creates new possibilities--if I did, I'd hope. Considers unsupported possibilities--that I agree with for sure.


sarameg - Aug 11, 2006 4:11:50 pm PDT #2160 of 10001

I'm not reading it as tightly as you, so I can equate new with unsupported in terms of imagination. Basically, going beyond what the evidence allows for.

It's not really a comparison (hope vs optimism) I've looked at before. But it does resonate. I tend towards pessimism, but hang on like a pollyana. I can't really live any other way.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2006 4:35:31 pm PDT #2161 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm rarely optimistic, and almost never hopeful. It's served me well.

Oh, how the hell would I know? I know that cynics are more often right, and optimists more often happy--I resent having to choose between the two.

Cool 3 year time lapse of a woman's face.

While I'm there:

oh, and I've not seen this...


sarameg - Aug 11, 2006 4:52:30 pm PDT #2162 of 10001

I know that cynics are more often right, and optimists more often happy--I resent having to choose between the two.

Heh. I toss all that judgement off to the side. I'm just wired the way I am, even as I bristle that something other than my own will could control something like that. I'm going to be thinking "it's all going to work out, sara" even as I see the bus heading my way and simultaneously assuming I'm gonna die. And since dead=wormfood and I'm not particularly suicidal, I'm going to count those as contradictory. I've poked at it, and it just doesn't budge. I'm not as introspective as I once was, so I guess that could be subject to change. In any case, maybe it allows me to be both right and happy? Relatively speaking.


Jesse - Aug 11, 2006 4:59:09 pm PDT #2163 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I bet The Hoff is very optimistic.

I am really looking forward to going to sleep tonight. And tomorrow I have to go to the post office to get my diploma. @@

OTOH, I got to hold a tiny baby tonight. Good times.