More math fun:

I was taking calculus. I was a mathematics major and I was at a Christian college that was called Christian, but was not Christian....

I asked a question to my calculus professor: “What makes this course distinctly Christian?” He stopped. He said no one has ever asked that question before...

He said, “Okay, I'm a Christian; you're a Christian.”

I said, “That's not what I asked! What makes this calculus course distinctly Christian? What makes this different from the local secular university? Are we using the same text? Yes. Are you teaching it the same way? Yes. Then why is this called a Christian college and that one a non-Christian college?”

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The good Christian should beware the mathematician and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of hell.

-St Augustine

Was St Augustine using the same definition of "mathematician" that I am?

I can't even follow what Jehle is saying in that quote. I gave up and remain happily pagan. Or am I heathen? I can never remember.

Was St Augustine using the same definition of "mathematician" that I am?

I fervently and enthusiastically hope so.

Okay, It's built on Hinduism. Let's look at all the Islamic countries over in Europe.

Ow ow ow ow ow ow ow.

I can't even follow what Jehle is saying in that quote.

Another blogger said this:

Every august, James Kennedy - a thoroughly repulsive ultra-fundy preacher from Coral Ridge Ministries - runs a conference called "Reclaiming America for Christ". At this years conference, he featured a speech by Paul Jehle about "Evaluating your Philosophy of Education".

Jehle is... umm... how do we say this politely?....

Ah, screw it. Jehle is a fucking frothing at the mouth nutjob lunatic asshole.

His basic argument - the argument that he expects people to take seriously - is that everything is either christian or non-christian. And if it's non-christian, then christians shouldn't look at it, listen to it, or study it. And you can't ever make anything that started out non-christian christian.

then after his quote of Jehle (that I quoted in my previous post):

Yeah. Seriously. Math is Bad, because it's not explicitly christian. I mean, it uses zero, which was invented by a hindu, and brought to europe by muslims. Algebra was invented by muslims! The word "algorithm" comes from the name of a muslim mathematician!

Uh-oh... I just realized that the alleged "Doctor" Jehle has a very serious problem. The way that we geeks heard his talk to write about it is because it was digitized - using a thoroughly non-christian technology - and posted on the internet, which is built using those non-christian algorithms. And to quite Jehle himself:

But the issue is you cannot combine something by its nature which is pagan and built on humanistic principles and make it Christian by a magic wand.

So the internet, and computers, and digital recording, and the data compression that makes streaming audio work - they're non-christian. And you cannot combine something non-Christian with something Christian.

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And you can't ever make anything that started out non-christian christian.

Damn. Not even, say, St. Paul?

I can't help myself:

Differentiation is an operator on functions that takes one functions and transforms it into another form. The new form is related to the old form--the derivative tells interesting information about how the original function behaves graphically--but it is a completely new function. When someone accepts Jesus as Lord of their life and gives themselves wholly to God as one of His creatures, a similar transformation occurs."

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"Once a person has been called to be a Christian, we are redeemed by Christ but not released from following the law of God. We are justified once but continue with the process of sanctification for the remainder of our lives. This sanctification process is like the limit process of the secant lines approaching the tangent line."

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So the internet, and computers, and digital recording, and the data compression that makes streaming audio work - they're non-christian. And you cannot combine something non-Christian with something Christian.

If that includes amps, electric guitars and whatnot do they have to take back Stryper?

Wait, if mathematics is non-Christian, how can he justify explaining Christianity using math as his metaphor?

If that includes amps, electric guitars and whatnot do they have to take back Stryper?

Heh.

Didn't Stryper abandon Christian rock for, um... secular rock? Or am I thinking of some other Christian band?