What one, Allyson, common descent?
Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
The one where:
"...We can't have evolved from apes because there are still apes!"
I don't think anyone here was making that argument. Quite the contrary.
Allyson don't think that argument is taken seriously as a scientific argument. (In point of fact apes are our cousins, not our grandparents.) But people who insist that creationism is a scientific theory seem unwilling to drop any argument, no matter how discredited.
Oh and on group selection:
So apparently group selection is considered a really viable hypothesis (even by some a theory) though it is still controversial.
I didn't say anyone here was. I responded to:
Isn't it the argument involved in explaining how there can be modern apes, and modern humans with the same ancestor?
And was asking if people still made the argument, making the explanation a necessity in debate.
I think the comma after "apes" is making that statement come across wrong.
You, God and Ayn Rand.
And was asking if people still made the argument, making the explanation a necessity in debate.
Oddly enough, people do. I heard someone call into Penn Jillette's radio show the other day thinking he had completely pwned Jillette with it. But you shouldn't have to if the other side is familiar with the first thing about evolution.
People do continue to be idiots.
Crap -- when I was walking down the hall, I thought of something I had to do when I got back to my desk, but now I forget. Ah well. Couldn't have been that important.
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