I can beat up demons until the cows come home, and then I can beat up the cows.

Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Aug 07, 2006 9:07:12 am PDT #1233 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

The one where:

"...We can't have evolved from apes because there are still apes!"


Topic!Cindy - Aug 07, 2006 9:13:41 am PDT #1234 of 10001
What is even happening?

I don't think anyone here was making that argument. Quite the contrary.


Typo Boy - Aug 07, 2006 9:16:37 am PDT #1235 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Allyson don't think that argument is taken seriously as a scientific argument. (In point of fact apes are our cousins, not our grandparents.) But people who insist that creationism is a scientific theory seem unwilling to drop any argument, no matter how discredited.

Oh and on group selection:

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So apparently group selection is considered a really viable hypothesis (even by some a theory) though it is still controversial.


Allyson - Aug 07, 2006 9:16:54 am PDT #1236 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I didn't say anyone here was. I responded to:

Isn't it the argument involved in explaining how there can be modern apes, and modern humans with the same ancestor?

And was asking if people still made the argument, making the explanation a necessity in debate.


Polter-Cow - Aug 07, 2006 9:29:27 am PDT #1237 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think the comma after "apes" is making that statement come across wrong.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 07, 2006 9:41:11 am PDT #1238 of 10001
What is even happening?

You, God and Ayn Rand.


bon bon - Aug 07, 2006 9:45:53 am PDT #1239 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

And was asking if people still made the argument, making the explanation a necessity in debate.

Oddly enough, people do. I heard someone call into Penn Jillette's radio show the other day thinking he had completely pwned Jillette with it. But you shouldn't have to if the other side is familiar with the first thing about evolution.


Jesse - Aug 07, 2006 9:58:47 am PDT #1240 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

People do continue to be idiots.

Crap -- when I was walking down the hall, I thought of something I had to do when I got back to my desk, but now I forget. Ah well. Couldn't have been that important.


Aims - Aug 07, 2006 9:59:59 am PDT #1241 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Check your pants on eBay!1!


bon bon - Aug 07, 2006 10:01:53 am PDT #1242 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Oh, thanks guys for the grammar assist earlier today.