He's fine with the "no" answer, but I think he is more worried about the "no we no longer want you to work for us" answer.
It's not likely that just asking for a few more perks or a counter offer of salary would result in a complete reversal of the job offer. Not if they really want him.
This exactly. When I offer someone a job, I don't take it badly if they need a day or two to think about it or if they counter-offer on the salary. Only one time have I said thanks but this isn't a good fit when a prospect counter-offered, but that was because I offered him $25K and he countered with $36K. There was no way I could come even close to his counter, so why bother.
Am now imagining shopping at Lush and then having lunch at CPK
Sumi, I'd totally meet you at Oakbrook for that.
Teacup Guy got the job offer!!! The money is good too!
Okay, I'm a bit late with the above! Yay!!!
As for negotiating salaries?
Eons ago, when negotiating into a job (I was a temp and the boss said,"I'm not exactly sure what it is you do, but I want you doing it for us."), I went for broke in the salary negotiation...basically asking for 50% more. What they had offered was fair, but not what I needed. I figured, if I could not get what I needed, then I should be elsewhere.
They went for it.
But, even better, a few weeks after I became salaried, the other!boss came into my office (I'd negotiated myself out of a cubicle too) and said, "You did yourself a big favor by pushing back. If you didn't value your skills enough to ask for more, why should we?"
I was 29 at the time and that lesson has informed many a job decision since.
sj! YAY!! I'm so very happy for the both of you.
WOO HOOOOO!
Yay for TCG and sj! I'm so glad he got the job.
Yay Teacup Guy! And yay for together-weekends.
"You did yourself a big favor by pushing back. If you didn't value your skills enough to ask for more, why should we?"
Words to live by. Of course, when I left being an actual govie to become a contractor, they asked what salary I was looking for. I gave a number that was double my current (for less and less skilled work, by the by) and the guy didn't even blink. "Great!" he said. "No problem."
"Fuck!" I thought. "Should've asked for 300%!"
Teacup Guy got the job offer!!! The money is good too!
Oh thank goodness. He's been stretched too thin for ages.
"Should've asked for 300%!"
Seriously! When I raised my client rates (to cut out the hassle factor, to be frank), I started getting much better clients.
And adding to the YAYzer for sj and tg and sane working hours.
And adding to the YAYzer for sj and tg and sane working hours.
Hear, hear. Yay for some good news around here for a change.
Daniel and I need big heaps of car~ma now, though. The mini-van is dead, and the Caprice left him stranded this morning - think it's the water pump in that, and his cousin just pulled up to do what he can with it.
