Simon: You are my beautiful sister. River: I threw up on your bed. Simon: Yep. Definitely my sister.

'War Stories'


Spike's Bitches 31: We're Motivated Go-getters.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Fred Pete - Aug 11, 2006 7:35:12 am PDT #8170 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

If your kids want to go, let them give support to their kids. I assume they're old enough not to need a lesson on those social graces that involve a certain amount of dissembling, but you know that better than I.

As for yourself, I'm of the "I promised to go, so I can't back out without giving a very good reason" school. Which doesn't preclude making up good reasons when necessary. In this case, I'd suggest going to (1) support their kids, (2) set a good example for your kids, (3) have good stories to tell for our amusement on Monday morning.


Vortex - Aug 11, 2006 7:35:53 am PDT #8171 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Suzi, I'd say go with an open mind. But, have a backup planned. Have DH call you 1/2 hour after you arrive. Enough time to assess the sitch, say hello and be seen. Then, you can just say, oh, got to leave, home emergency.


Fred Pete - Aug 11, 2006 7:36:19 am PDT #8172 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Congrats, sj and Mr. Teacup!


SuziQ - Aug 11, 2006 7:39:14 am PDT #8173 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Y'all are wise. I'm over thinking the whole thing. As I mentioned, they are neighbors, so it is easy to "pop in" and then leave. It is an open house - so there is no hard start/end time I have to be there for.

I want to have an open mind about the whole thing. Just the closer this event gets, the more funky I feel about it. I know I'm projecting some of my issues onto their situation and I need to stop that.


Sparky1 - Aug 11, 2006 7:44:02 am PDT #8174 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Rah! Rah! Teacup Guy!

Vortex is wise, Suzi.


beekaytee - Aug 11, 2006 7:44:26 am PDT #8175 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

This is my freak-out with every new job

I can't recommend highly enough, nabbing a copy of Emily Koltnow's book 'Congratulations, You've been fired.' [link] when negotiating into or out of a gig.

The book is out of print, which means you can pick it up, for wicked cheap, on amazon.

It features a fairly comprehensive list of things you can ask for and how to ask for them. Emily is pretty old-school, and the book is geared toward women, but it really is useful both emotionally and practically, for just about anyone getting a new job or leaving an old one.


SailAweigh - Aug 11, 2006 7:49:33 am PDT #8176 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Congratulations to teacup guy, sj! Time to partay!

Cash, that does sound like an awkward place to be in. I don't do that kind of work, so I'd say that Vortex definitely has the inside track on how to handle it. I'll keep vibing job~ma your way so that you both get paid in a timely manner and, most of all, get the job.

As for negotiating salaries? I suck. Only once have I gotten what I wanted and that was by sheer luck. I was worth it, but their ideas of why they thought I was and my ideas of why were two totally different ideas. When I left that position, the person that took it after me had to take a $4 an hour paycut.


Lee - Aug 11, 2006 7:50:04 am PDT #8177 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

YAY Teacup Guy!


Frankenbuddha - Aug 11, 2006 7:54:10 am PDT #8178 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yay and congrats to sj and TG!!


ChiKat - Aug 11, 2006 7:54:37 am PDT #8179 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

He's fine with the "no" answer, but I think he is more worried about the "no we no longer want you to work for us" answer.

It's not likely that just asking for a few more perks or a counter offer of salary would result in a complete reversal of the job offer. Not if they really want him.

This exactly. When I offer someone a job, I don't take it badly if they need a day or two to think about it or if they counter-offer on the salary. Only one time have I said thanks but this isn't a good fit when a prospect counter-offered, but that was because I offered him $25K and he countered with $36K. There was no way I could come even close to his counter, so why bother.

Am now imagining shopping at Lush and then having lunch at CPK

Sumi, I'd totally meet you at Oakbrook for that.

Teacup Guy got the job offer!!! The money is good too!

Okay, I'm a bit late with the above! Yay!!!