Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.

'Destiny'


Spike's Bitches 31: We're Motivated Go-getters.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Fay - Jun 26, 2006 12:04:19 pm PDT #1822 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

!!!

FanTAStic.

Oh, Tep, I remember when you claimed to be the most vanilla vanillagirl in the history of vanillopolis.

To be honest, I find it hard to wrap my head around quite what transvestisism is/means to people. Gender disphoria makes more sense to me, but when it's a case of wanting to wear women's clothes - up to including fake breasts - but not wanting to BE female...this puzzles me. I mean, I accept it is so, because that's what people say, but I don't feel like I 'get' it in the way that I feel (perhaps mistakenly) like I 'get' the whole transgender thing. It's very interesting.


Steph L. - Jun 26, 2006 12:06:57 pm PDT #1823 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I guess I have a hard time grokking it because in our society women have the freedom to dress in ways that men don't. I can wear a flirty dress and heels one day and jeans and t-shirt the next and no one thinks that's the slightest bit odd. I feel like I'm me in both situations.

Well, that's what I mean when I say I don't really understand it, either. I don't feel any more or less "me" in pants vs. a dress.

To be honest, I find it hard to wrap my head around quite what transvestisism is/means to people. Gender disphoria makes more sense to me, but when it's a case of wanting to wear women's clothes - up to including fake breasts - but not wanting to BE female...this puzzles me.

Me, too.


vw bug - Jun 26, 2006 12:07:24 pm PDT #1824 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

I skimmed…but…

Could this day get any more stressful?
If the check didn't come? If Toto ate all the Monopoly pieces? If you accidentally dyed your hair green?

Actually, if the check hadn’t come, I’d spent my time doing back-up plan work rather than all the hoop-jumping this required. It actually got worse, but I don’t feel like going into it. Suffice it to say, my father HATES my bank and told them as much, and I’m not allowed to put my money in a savings account there.

Hoping vw checks in soonish. Have had fingers crossed that everything worked out with the check and apartment docs. Fingers sore.

Awwww…thanks! Everything is signed and the big checks are written. The apartment is mine, and I’ve eaten, and I’m feeling better about life in general. Although, I still hate my bank.


Fay - Jun 26, 2006 12:07:52 pm PDT #1825 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

...liking ChiKat's post, there. Yes. We do get to choose whether to present ourselves more femininely or masculinely (I know I'm going to get jumped on for that, and I don't mean 'butchly' - perhaps I should say 'gender neutral'?) according to whim, and it doesn't have to be about wanting to dress like a man, per se...

...hmm.

It's all absolutely fascinating to me, but it leaves me all baffled and speculative.


Glamcookie - Jun 26, 2006 12:08:25 pm PDT #1826 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I definitely feel less me in a dress/skirt than I do in pants (especially jeans).


Steph L. - Jun 26, 2006 12:10:06 pm PDT #1827 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

The closest I can get to understanding it is when I think of how weird I feel wearing a business suit.

I guess, in a lot of ways, the clothes DO make the man. Except it starts the other way 'round. It's very confusing.


sj - Jun 26, 2006 12:10:37 pm PDT #1828 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Everything is signed and the big checks are written. The apartment is mine, and I’ve eaten, and I’m feeling better about life in general. Although, I still hate my bank.

Yay for apartment! Curses on your bank.


juliana - Jun 26, 2006 12:11:10 pm PDT #1829 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I definitely feel less me in a dress/skirt than I do in pants (especially jeans).

Heh. I'm exactly the opposite.


Typo Boy - Jun 26, 2006 12:12:26 pm PDT #1830 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I don't understand it either - but most articles on male cross dressing suggest that many cross dressers feel the way you describe - more comfortable in women's close, more right, more themselves. I suspect it is something to be felt rather than understood - that is further expaination would be an attempt to find something that would arouse comparable emotions rather than any type of analysis.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 26, 2006 12:16:34 pm PDT #1831 of 10001
What is even happening?

Fay, I was thinking the same thing pretty much, probably because of my reaction to this:

when he comes home from work, he changes into a dress or skirt and the highest fucking high heels I've ever seen. Generally a bra and fake boobs
...which was: "But DAYUM baby, at the end of a long, hard day, that shit's so uncomfortable. You should get pretty jammies and slippers, instead. My current favorites are light pink Betty Boop PJs."