I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

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Rick - Jul 28, 2006 3:24:11 pm PDT #9250 of 10002

Does anyone here subscribe to the journal Nature? I want to, but purely out of curiousity, and it's expensive, so I'm wondering if it's worth it, or if everything cool will eventually trickle down to the "popular" science mags anyway.

Most of the articles themselves are hard for a nonspecialist to understand. So the people who are reading the first paper in an issue probably can't understand the third paper. Or I may be projecting, because I can never understand more than one paper in an issue.

But the cool stuff usually gets a more accessible editorial summary, and those summaries are usually freely available on the web at nature.com or if you really only want things from the flagship journal, nature.com/nature.

All universities have an online subscription, so I bet that a Buffista could set you up with any paper you can't get for free.


Zenkitty - Jul 28, 2006 3:40:41 pm PDT #9251 of 10002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

And anything that fits in the bust is too tight in the waist... Jesse, you're right! I just need vintage undergarments! A girdle and a bullet bra! Oh, as usual, dear.

Rick, thanks, that's about what I expected. Sometimes I can access the abstracts, which are really all I need, but sometimes I can't get even that without a subscription. I'm going to check with our librarian to see if our institution has a subscription (I doubt it).


Jesse - Jul 28, 2006 3:43:03 pm PDT #9252 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And anything that fits in the bust is too tight in the waist... Jesse, you're right! I just need vintage undergarments! A girdle and a bullet bra! Oh, as usual, dear.

It's such a universal problem, and I don't think my proportions are so odd, that I'm really convinced that's the problem with vintage.


JZ - Jul 28, 2006 3:53:48 pm PDT #9253 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

FWIW, a longline bullet bra will usually do just as well to fit you into vintage dresses as a regular bullet bra and a girdle, and they're not impossible to find on eBay. Plus, a fair number of vintage longlines have some light boning in the body but no underwires in the bust. The lack of underwire is just sheerly blissful.


Jesse - Jul 28, 2006 3:54:56 pm PDT #9254 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ah, but if I did that, then I might discover that they STILL don't fit, and that would never do!

Question: If I go back to my hairdresser to get my cut fixed, do I tip her again?


JZ - Jul 28, 2006 3:59:19 pm PDT #9255 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Well, even if you tried it and the dresses still didn't fit, at least you'd still have a lovely non-underwire yet perkytastic bra. And you could sell the vintage dresses to buy more bras.

Plus, I could live vicariously through you since it'll be approximately forever before I can get back into mine (which I frequently wore under regular non-vintage stuff, it was that comfy).


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2006 4:00:04 pm PDT #9256 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Anything that fits in the waist is too big in the chest, because I'm not wearing a girdle and a bullet bra.

Man, I'm suited for vintage in a way they never could have predicted...actually, my problem is more often that the chest is too small, and since the Incredible Hulking incident, I have to add on extra measurement for actually moving to anything that has sleeves.


P.M. Marc - Jul 28, 2006 4:02:56 pm PDT #9257 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Even in vintage, my problem has always been fitting the boobs and butt.

If they fit, the waist bags.

I'm ReversoJesse.


Jesse - Jul 28, 2006 4:05:01 pm PDT #9258 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'd have to find the perfect candidate before figuring out new underwear, and that hasn't happened yet, so I'll just keep buying dresses that fit!


Topic!Cindy - Jul 28, 2006 4:09:18 pm PDT #9259 of 10002
What is even happening?

Apropos of being a busy-body: JZ, you know underwires are a no-no post partum (and maybe even at the end of pregnancy--I disremember), right?