It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another.

Mal ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Jul 24, 2006 2:31:26 pm PDT #8511 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

My MiL was sensitive to smoke and to Windex (and other window cleaners). My FiL smoked but since MiL was so sensitive to it, he only smoked at work and in their car on the way to work. But he always had to clean the car out and couldn't use Windex because of her other sensitivites. So he used vinegar to clean their car windows from the smoke.

Their vehicle smelled highly of vinegar and I swear, I'd get nauseated every time I had to ride in their car.

My magic eraser works great on windows, too. Especially those caked with the crusty mix of dog drool and dirt and tiny hand prints.


Kathy A - Jul 24, 2006 2:33:45 pm PDT #8512 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The smell of vinegar reminds me of Easter egg dyeing. That smell was the only part of the process that I hated.


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2006 2:38:04 pm PDT #8513 of 10002
Compassionately intolerant

I'm overcome with magic eraser love. Today marks my first use and I'm practically orgasmic!

I use white vinegar to clean everything...that and baking soda...the smell says 'clean' to me.


tommyrot - Jul 24, 2006 2:38:42 pm PDT #8514 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Also, tommyrot? Re some total stranger's recent discovery of the proto-Bender? Humph, I say, humph.

Bah. That post was obviously hidden from me... by magiks. Or cyber-toads.


Liese S. - Jul 24, 2006 3:32:04 pm PDT #8515 of 10002
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I'm curious to know what other green cleaning methods people use. Do you dilute your vinegar for windows? Do you put it in your own spritzer bottle?

I buy marketed green cleaning products, which have a varying success rate. I like Simple Green, it seems fairly effective and smells nice. I use a green dishsoap, too, which is not a brand I'm familiar with, so I'm not sure how actually green it is. It works fine, but it takes more of it than normal.


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2006 3:42:12 pm PDT #8516 of 10002
Compassionately intolerant

I use white vinegar straight, but I'm sure cutting it would still work...and might dim the smell.

I love that I can get a huge bottle at Costco for $2.50. Cheaper and far less icky than a lot of commercial cleaners.

Liese, I can recommend Slug Bread & Beheaded Thistles: Amusing and useful techniques for nontoxic housekeeping and gardening by Ellen Sandbeck. Lots of good tips.


Gus - Jul 24, 2006 3:43:04 pm PDT #8517 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Personally, I let everything grow a crust of fibrous tendrils. Bacteria lives. It has aspirations, and goals. Who appointed me adjudicator of all things living?


Kathy A - Jul 24, 2006 3:44:05 pm PDT #8518 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

All this talk about "green" cleaning products reminds me of last night's Iron Chef America ("Battle Salmon!"), when Alton Brown asked the challenger chef about the squeeze bottle of something bright green. He was guessing it was some kind of sauce, but the chef corrected him with "That's soap, Alton."


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2006 3:44:52 pm PDT #8519 of 10002
Compassionately intolerant

You are right Gus. I claim godrights wrongly. But claim them, I do!


libkitty - Jul 24, 2006 3:52:34 pm PDT #8520 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I like Simple Green, it seems fairly effective and smells nice.

I want to like Simple Green, but it seems that being in a room with a closed bottle gives me a migraine. Open ones....ack!

Who appointed me adjudicator of all things living?

Yeah, this is the reason I haven't cleaned in mumble, mumble, mumble. It was a thought out, rational decision, not laziness. Yep.