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Anya ,'Empty Places'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Jul 21, 2006 5:27:57 am PDT #7901 of 10002

I have been a moron with my sleep habits this week. Please shoot me.


Vortex - Jul 21, 2006 5:28:04 am PDT #7902 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Isn't there a disorder, for instance, where the hearer can't interpret tone?

autism? or somebody-somebody syndrome? (Tay-Sachs?) hmm

eta: not Tay Sachs, but possibly somebody else-somebody else syndrome


Amy - Jul 21, 2006 5:29:35 am PDT #7903 of 10002
Because books.

In winter, when gardening gloves are hard to find, Willy doesn't become a mitten kitten. His offseason prey is dirty socks from the laundry room.

Despite his criminal nature, neighbors get a kick out of Willy. Cassone said the cat likes to accompany the mailman up and down the block, all the way to each front door.

Poor Willy. Can he be rehabilitated?


Jesse - Jul 21, 2006 5:30:06 am PDT #7904 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But I don't think tone is conventional wisdom. I do think it's obvious. Which is why I wonder if the paper's about something more subtle than that.

Oh, it is about something more subtle than tone in general -- it's about unconscious tone. People could "hear" if the speaker was looking at something moving fast or slow while they talked.


Jars - Jul 21, 2006 5:30:28 am PDT #7905 of 10002

Isn't there a disorder, for instance, where the hearer can't interpret tone?

Don't a lot of autistics have difficulty interpreting tone and facial expression? Or is that something I made up in my head?


Toddson - Jul 21, 2006 5:30:56 am PDT #7906 of 10002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Is this what happens when kittens lose their mittens?


§ ita § - Jul 21, 2006 5:31:48 am PDT #7907 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it's about unconscious tone

I'd say that's not unobvious either. I'd be more surprised at an assertion that tone is conscious.

I guess there's something I'm completely failing to get.

Maybe it's tone.


Toddson - Jul 21, 2006 5:32:11 am PDT #7908 of 10002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

And in re the research about tones, I checked out the feral child site and one of the children - who grew up with dogs, I believe - can speak but does so flatly, with no expression (just as a matter of interest).


Jesse - Jul 21, 2006 5:33:01 am PDT #7909 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'd say that's not unobvious either.

Me too.


tommyrot - Jul 21, 2006 5:33:04 am PDT #7910 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is this what happens when kittens lose their mittens?

Yes. Apparantly the cat's behavior is intended to circumvent the "no pie" consequence of losing mittens.