Hey, popsicles were not on the tour!

There was a sign! And I even waved vaguely in that direction, or at least thought about it.

For those of you keeping score, NYC still hasn't been nuked.

YAY!

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I'm disputing the chicken soup bullshit, because the person is stating that one can't forge those kinds of relationships online, and well, here we are.

It doesn't say that it can't be done, or even that it isn't done. Honestly, I don't see anything in the survey data that would even distinguish relationships that formed online from those that formed at a YMCA. They're all counted equally, which I think is as it should be.

This

And in the end, she and others pointed out, e-mail or instant messaging is no substitute for face-to-face contact. "E-mailing somebody far way is not the same as them going to pick up your child at daycare or bringing you chicken soup," she said.

says they are not the same. I think that's self-evident. If you truly believe that there is absolutely no difference between chatting online and RW interaction, why do you have F2Fs? Why bring Nilly here? Why do online communities tend to meet in the real world eventually? Why make that effort if it doesn't buy you anything?

There's nothing in there that says online communication is worthless and hollow. It's not equivalent to physical interaction. That leaves plenty of room to say that one may be better in some ways, while worse in others. But they're not the same. I am willing to bet that for most people in this country, online communication is less satisfying, simply because most people aren't even comfortable with the interface. But there are tens of millions of exceptions to that, because "most" doesn't equal "all," and it's a big country.

I dunno. What reads to me as "LD relationships aren't the same as those with people you see regularly" seems to read to you as "nobody can form real relationships online" and... I don't understand how you're getting there.

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Someone remind me that gnawing my leg off to get rid of my cast will ultimately be counterproductive.

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Dude. Is San Francisco really having temperatures in the 50s and 60s, or is weather.com lying to me?

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I think it was warmer than that down here today, but then I'm not in SF.

Hey, tomorrow do you want to go hang out in North Beach at one of Juliana's bars and watch the world cup?

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How much warmer are we talking. 70s? 80s? I'm trying to figure out what to pack.

That sounds most excellent. I have made absolutely no plans and am entirely reliant on the social instincts of others.

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Layers are always good for SF, because of the fog.

Juliana has social instincts! Let's move this to email and see what her plans are.

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D'uh! I don't mean tomorrow, I mean Tuesday.

I bet you could go hang out in one of Juliana's bars tomorrow though.

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Dana, I'm told an icepack around the top helps with irritation.

Because I am a big public radio and tv dork, I'm watching this weekend's PHC on PBS. A) Meryl Streep is fairly good at this. And she looks lovely and has a lovely voice and makes you want to hug her and b) I'm familiar with and terribly fond of the song Calling All Angels from the soundtrack to some Wim Wenders film, done by Jane Siberry. Wailin' Jennys nailed it. I cried when I heard it on the radio yesterday, and again on tv tonight. I almost wonder if one of the Jennys is Jane. They got all the notes and inflections that make it so poignant.

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Dana, I'm told an icepack around the top helps with irritation.

Just don't make my mistake and read that as "icepick" at first. Because I don't think that would help at all.

the song Calling All Angels from the soundtrack to some Wim Wenders film

Until the End of the World.

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