You know what they say about payback? Well I'm the bitch.

Fred ,'Life of the Party'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strega - Jul 02, 2006 1:13:59 pm PDT #5051 of 10002

Someone oughtta write a book disputing this.
What exactly are you disputing?

Most people -- not "most people online" or "most people in fandom," but most people -- do not form the kind of LD relationships this particular community has. Many people certainly do. But there are more who don't. Allyson, you've written a book explaining how relationships form on the net. If it was common, you wouldn't need to explain it.


Gus - Jul 02, 2006 1:22:16 pm PDT #5052 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

All relationships are long distance.

Wait. In a minute, I will get really depressing.


erikaj - Jul 02, 2006 1:30:17 pm PDT #5053 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

What? Like existentially? You can never know another person and shit?


Ouise - Jul 02, 2006 1:52:49 pm PDT #5054 of 10002
Socks are a running theme throughout the series. They are used as symbols of freedom, redemption and love.

Wow, that was really frustrating. I'm doing an online course. This morning the website went down - when it finally came up again, the NEXT PAGE was just an instruction to read a chapter of one of the textbooks. I could have been doing that while I couldn't access the website. Argh!


§ ita § - Jul 02, 2006 2:05:35 pm PDT #5055 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If it was common, you wouldn't need to explain it.

Well, there's money to be made telling people what they already know, but might not have thought about properly.

Lots of it.

I do agree with Allyson's point that LD interaction isn't new and isn't unrewarding--the fact that she can say that better than I do is not unrelated to why she's the one with the book deal.


Tom Scola - Jul 02, 2006 2:08:30 pm PDT #5056 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Huh. There's a "large hail" warning for NY.


Gus - Jul 02, 2006 2:21:03 pm PDT #5057 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

What? Like existentially? You can never know another person ...

Sure. Turn me into a freshman ...

Ok. Yes, like existentially. Crap. All the big thinkers have been here. Even the French big thinkers.

Now, that is depressing.


Typo Boy - Jul 02, 2006 2:24:49 pm PDT #5058 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah but you are saying it more entertainingly.


Lee - Jul 02, 2006 2:25:56 pm PDT #5059 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Just had a very lovely brunch with lots of cool Buffistas and others.

No one ate any popsicles though.


Allyson - Jul 02, 2006 2:29:14 pm PDT #5060 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Most people -- not "most people online" or "most people in fandom," but most people -- do not form the kind of LD relationships this particular community has.

I'm disputing the chicken soup bullshit, because the person is stating that one can't forge those kinds of relationships online, and well, here we are. I'd send you chicken soup, Strega. In fact, today I saw a pirate flag lunchbox and thought, "I'll have to pick that up for Strega," because that's chicken soup, Strega style.

As for most people, or most people online, and this particular community, I can hand you anecdotal evidence from every community I've seen: Farscape, Firefly, The Bronze, here, The Well, all have resulted in meetups, hook ups, face-to-face friendships. Daily Kos just did it as well.

My hypothesis is that any community that has been online for 6 months or more will result in meatspace friendships among some members. But that's just a hypothesis, and until I get a grant from some crazy rich person, I'll not have any empirical evidence to back me.