Giles! I accidentally killed Spike. That's okay, right?

Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Jul 02, 2006 6:49:32 am PDT #5023 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Oh, the nature of my pants notwithstanding, I don't mean sexually passionate.


Allyson - Jul 02, 2006 6:50:44 am PDT #5024 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Exactly! I just told someone the other day that Emerson was just a low-tech blogger, and that Jefferson and Hamilton worked out the Constitution and Bill of Rights over a low tech flame-war. Same shit, different century.


amych - Jul 02, 2006 7:03:17 am PDT #5025 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Even though it doesn't ship well, there has even been Buffista soup conveyance -- when TB took pho to Hec's ex-GF when she was new in Portland and didn't know anyone (including TB).

And Allyson, you're right to be passionate about this stuff.


Trudy Booth - Jul 02, 2006 7:03:58 am PDT #5026 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

For about a generation "correspondence" went away. And then it came back like blazes. I wonder about the books that will be published in a decade or two containing the emails and IMs between two noteable politicans or artists. Or even a group of them.


-t - Jul 02, 2006 7:10:22 am PDT #5027 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yup - when we got our hands on printing presses, we made handbills and booklets. It's the technology that's changed, not the behavior.

I have in my head that someone has done some sort of study documenting the social evolution of the typical online community, and it includes a "hey, we should meet in meat space" phase.


Lee - Jul 02, 2006 7:27:17 am PDT #5028 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Plus, I bet if I asked -t (which I am not), I would have chicken soup at my door in a little over 2 hours.


DavidS - Jul 02, 2006 7:32:06 am PDT #5029 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

when TB took pho to Hec's ex-GF when she was new in Portland and didn't know anyone (including TB).

and an Easter basket.


Steph L. - Jul 02, 2006 7:34:13 am PDT #5030 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I just told someone the other day that Emerson was just a low-tech blogger, and that Jefferson and Hamilton worked out the Constitution and Bill of Rights over a low tech flame-war. Same shit, different century.

::loves Allyson::


-t - Jul 02, 2006 7:57:08 am PDT #5031 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's true, Lee. Should that ever become useful.

What's interesting to me about the whole changes-to-how-people-socialize thing is that it seems to echo what happened around the Enlightenement and Industrial Revolution, when people started organizing themselves in Societies and Clubs based on interests (Natural History or Astronomy or Abolition or whatever) that crossed class lines and allowed people to form friendships with people who weren't family members or neighbors or in the same church.

Whenever someone says that some new thing is happening that is destroying society, it always seems to have happened before.


Lee - Jul 02, 2006 8:32:57 am PDT #5032 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

-t! Shouldn't you be on your way southward soon?