Up until the punching, it was a real nice party.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 27, 2006 1:43:30 pm PDT #4317 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

having dated a mormon, I unfortunately say Run, run far away! Um, that was not the needed advice, was it?

The thing is, I have found that Mormons tend to truly believe that you are going to hell. So if they love you, they want you to be Mormon, so you won't It springs from a generous impulse, but there isn't much getting around it.

My experience was sa an adult with an adult male, however, so maybe just encouraging her to explore different religions that he is interested in, too? Or just asking her to please stop.


Jesse - Jun 27, 2006 1:48:11 pm PDT #4318 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, I don't think there's really much you can do about a Mormon prostheletizing (is that really how that's spelled?). Also, that seems like the kind of age where you really dig in with what you believe -- either "anything but what my parents do!" or "this is ME!!" or whatever. Everyone but you is an idiot at 15.


Connie Neil - Jun 27, 2006 2:04:15 pm PDT #4319 of 10002
brillig

He cited her use of my fav. line ever: "pray on it and it will be revealed to you". Oy.

It's always fun to say, "Yes, I did pray on it, and Eris laughed and laughed." They simply cannot believe that you could have seriously considered matters and come up with a decision of "No, thanks." I've been told, "Are you sure you did it right?"

If she's devout and he doesn't convert, I doubt the relationship will last. I'm sure she's said to her family, "Oh, he's wonderful, I'm sure he'll convert." She probably honestly and sweetly believes it, too.


DebetEsse - Jun 27, 2006 2:11:52 pm PDT #4320 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yeah, you guys are coming up with the same thought that I have, which is that this will become a Big Thing in the relationship, likely directly leading to its demise, but I'm being Support-O-Sister.


Jesse - Jun 27, 2006 2:14:07 pm PDT #4321 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In college, I tried to help a friend prepare for an argument with a friend of hers who was in a cult, with rebuttal bible verses and stuff, but it didn't do any good.

NOT that the LDS is a cult.

I'm just saying, you can't argue people out of their religious beliefs, and getting other people to sign on is a pretty big part of Mormonism.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 27, 2006 2:16:00 pm PDT #4322 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I just cannot explain how much it is NOT like a catholic dating a protestant in this day and age. It is like old school religious conflict. Of course this deist/big into sentiment and feeling/despressive disordered person dating a mormon/stoic/obsessive compulsive disordered person leads me to believe that three were more problems than just the religion. At his age, I almost think that if he really likes her, he can keep up a relationship for about a year without it being an issue, which may be OK at 15.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 27, 2006 2:25:39 pm PDT #4323 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So I'm guessing a movie night double bill of Bash and Latter Days wouldn't be helpful?


P.M. Marc - Jun 27, 2006 2:32:31 pm PDT #4324 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Please remember that she's young and he actually wants to continue this relationship (although he has expressed reservations in the past wrt LDS's stance on homosexuality. Go Team Tolerance). Any ideas?

At that age, or any age, really, they'll either find that they can move past it (there are people in the church who don't agree with all the official stances, after all), or that they can't. My only suggestion would be that, whenever he feels she's to sway him to the wonders of her world, he stop and gently point out what she's doing, and why it reads as an effort to convert him.


Jesse - Jun 27, 2006 2:54:19 pm PDT #4325 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So, anyone want to deal with the shit I have to get done tonight for me? Because I sure don't want to. It's not even much -- some ironing, maybe a little student loan consolidation....

OK. I'm going to put on coffee (for iced, in the morning) and do the damn ironing.


-t - Jun 27, 2006 3:01:31 pm PDT #4326 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Today, I had planned to marinate a roast for Friday and some chicken for tomorrow. And there's making dinner for tonight.

Don't wanna.