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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 13, 2006 10:01:58 am PDT #1854 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Dear lord, asve me from Bureacracy....

I work for a Division, inside a school, inside a University.

My division has a "policy" that no one can audit our classes. We also have a refund policy that there are no refunds after the start of a class.

We are now being told that we cannot call it a policy, we have to call it a procedure (which to me is the entirely wrong word for a one sentance rule).

The reason is that it has not been voted on by the faculty. That is, we are welcome to do it, but we have to publish it in our brochures as a procedure, not a policy.

Now, if you saw the words "Refund Procedure" wouldn't you expect to see directions on how to get a refund, not a sentance saying "There are no refunds after the start of class".


tommyrot - Jun 13, 2006 10:05:28 am PDT #1855 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Now, if you saw the words "Refund Procedure" wouldn't you expect to see directions on how to get a refund, not a sentance saying "There are no refunds after the start of class".

Yeah, that's dumb.

How about "Non-refund procedure"?

"Refund-request procedure"?

You may request a refund. However, you will not get it.

Um, use scare-quotes?

"Refund" procedure.


Dana - Jun 13, 2006 10:09:02 am PDT #1856 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

In technical writing, a procedure is a series of steps that you do to complete a task. Your people are crazy, Sophia.


Lee - Jun 13, 2006 10:16:02 am PDT #1857 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

What they all said, Sophia.


Hil R. - Jun 13, 2006 10:22:25 am PDT #1858 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah. That's not a "procedure."

Nilly, have you seen these photos of early Israel? [link] Some of them are really stunning.


-t - Jun 13, 2006 10:23:20 am PDT #1859 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think you should call it a Division Custom. "It is not our custom to give refunds after classes have started" has a nice ring to it.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 13, 2006 10:23:48 am PDT #1860 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Now, if you saw the words "Refund Procedure" wouldn't you expect to see directions on how to get a refund, not a sentance saying "There are no refunds after the start of class".

Rule no. 6: There is NO rule no. 6.

And of course

The first rule of Fight Club...


Sophia Brooks - Jun 13, 2006 10:24:51 am PDT #1861 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

The thing is, if we can't call it a policy because it hasn't been voted on by faculty, isn't there a better synonym for the word policy than the word procedure? Like, rule.

Of course, I just looked up policy in a thesaurus, and procedure was listed as a synonym...

ETA- I like "Custom"


Atropa - Jun 13, 2006 10:27:05 am PDT #1862 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

In technical writing, a procedure is a series of steps that you do to complete a task. Your people are crazy, Sophia.

Yes, this. If they don't want to call it a policy (and refusing to call it a policy, when it so clearly is, is just silly), maybe they'd be okay calling it a statement? Refund Statement?


Calli - Jun 13, 2006 10:28:49 am PDT #1863 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

We are now being told that we cannot call it a policy, we have to call it a procedure (which to me is the entirely wrong word for a one sentance rule).

The reason is that it has not been voted on by the faculty. That is, we are welcome to do it, but we have to publish it in our brochures as a procedure, not a policy.

Can't they just get the faculty to vote on it?