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'Heart Of Gold'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Jun 10, 2006 4:27:39 pm PDT #1616 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

worse still, AC in the speech quoted a commencement address given by Yoko Ono. I can't rmember the exact quote, but his response?!?!?! "easy when you have a billion dollars" eyerolly toward Yoko. UM POT!!!


msbelle - Jun 10, 2006 4:29:03 pm PDT #1617 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Also, easier to try one's hand at a creative career when paying the rent is not a big concern.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 10, 2006 4:33:50 pm PDT #1618 of 10002
What is even happening?

I don't know that I can count being an artist as doing something useful with your privileged background.
I think art is useful, specifically useful, not just valuable and important.


Jesse - Jun 10, 2006 4:37:34 pm PDT #1619 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

"easy when you have a billion dollars" eyerolly toward Yoko. UM POT!!!

Ha ha!

I'm not saying anyone has to agree with me.


DavidS - Jun 10, 2006 4:37:48 pm PDT #1620 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think art is valuable and important, but not useful. And useful is my most important thing, so.

Shelley argued that poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world. The chief moral value of art (as he posited it) was that art gave you experiences you didn't experience and consequently created intimacy and sympathy with others. That seems plausible to me. That's one thing I get from reading or movies. To know things beyond my experience.

Why do I think culture/art has such a high utility? Because in my experience all of the presumptions within our culture are mutable and part of an ongoing conversation. So the books on urban density that you favor were not pulled out of the air intact, but are the practical result of a long conversation that originates in philosophy and art before it achieves practicable use.

All practical and useful solutions are rooted in prior philosophical, artistic and cultural dialogue. Right down to the scientific method which derives from Aristotle.


erikaj - Jun 10, 2006 4:41:40 pm PDT #1621 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I feel inclined to stick up for Art, but I must admit sometimes I get revolted by some of those giant box office numbers, too.(Even though I find movies valuable.)


Jesse - Jun 10, 2006 4:47:56 pm PDT #1622 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In other news (or IS it??), I just got pictures from a friend of mine of her and her kid at Baby Loves Disco.

All practical and useful solutions are rooted in prior philosophical, artistic and cultural dialogue. Right down to the scientific method which derives from Aristotle.

Sure. But my dinner was rooted in dirt and seeds, but that doesn't make them food.


DavidS - Jun 10, 2006 4:53:12 pm PDT #1623 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sure. But my dinner was rooted in dirt and seeds, but that doesn't make them food.

No dirt, no food for you. Have fun in hydroponic tomotaland.


Jesse - Jun 10, 2006 4:54:35 pm PDT #1624 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I never said all that stuff isn't important! I love art and shit!


megan walker - Jun 10, 2006 4:56:16 pm PDT #1625 of 10002
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Hec,

Would you make a distinction between artists and "artists"? That is, if I spend all day painting because I'm a trustafarian, but never create anything anyone is interested in, am I doing something useful/valuable?