Early: Where'd she go? Simon: I can't keep track of her when she's not incorporeally possessing a space ship. Don't look at me.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jun 01, 2006 6:06:20 pm PDT #148 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

My concern is the political power of the religious right although really the concern isn't so much for the religious agenda as it is for the pro-corporate agenda that is riding it. I do worry about attacks on contraception, sexual education, science education, gay rights, and censorship but I don't think that the religious right has been all that successful in those areas. What they have done is help elect people who have gotten us into a unnecessary war, ballooned the deficit, weakened environmental laws, expanded executive power to crazy levels, and generally set the country back IMO.

I'll add something to this - the successes that they've had in the religious agenda - contraception, sexual education, science education, gay rights, and censorship, as you say, are issues where, long-term, they're losing. I don't mean that they're not having some success right now - I'm a bit less sanguine about that than you are, I think. And I think the short-term (10-20 year) consequences may be awful.

But. Frankly, on these issues, they're on the wrong side of history. They're panicked and hysterical about these issues for a reason. It's the less obvious stuff, the things that require a little more understanding and thought, the things that are tied in to the most rapacious elements of capitalist economics, that really hold the danger. Splitting those two strains apart is possibly the most important thing facing us today.


sumi - Jun 01, 2006 6:23:32 pm PDT #149 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I like Freestyle too -- and I've been enjoying this Design, Inc show because they show the design process really well, I think.


Lee - Jun 01, 2006 6:50:20 pm PDT #150 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Will someone come clean my house for me?


billytea - Jun 01, 2006 6:53:00 pm PDT #151 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Will someone come clean my house for me?

Yes! If you pay them. I've just found one that does the ironing too. How cool is that?


billytea - Jun 01, 2006 6:53:44 pm PDT #152 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Oh, ION, I just discovered that my firm's employees include the world champion bog snorkeller. I feel so proud.


brenda m - Jun 01, 2006 7:07:58 pm PDT #153 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Hmm. My firm's employees include...well, we drink alot. Does that count for anything?


Burrell - Jun 01, 2006 7:18:24 pm PDT #154 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Interesting discussion.

I do worry about attacks on contraception, sexual education, science education, gay rights, and censorship but I don't think that the religious right has been all that successful in those areas.

They've been pretty successful on contraception and sex education, I think. How many school districts still teach sex ed? Kat, Kristin, does LAUSD still teach it? My friend says Santa Monica schools don't. And then there's passing laws to allow pharmacists to not dispense Plan B, even getting people to discuss Plan B as an abortifacient, not contraception, etc.


Aims - Jun 01, 2006 7:28:23 pm PDT #155 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

They've been pretty successful on contraception and sex education, I think.

Heh. I'll have more information on this in a few weeks, since it's what my persuasive essay for school is about (yay, school!), but I do know, from what I've found, that from 1996 to 2006 (IIRC), federal funding for abstinence only programs had quintupled, while the same sort of funding for comprehensive sex-ed has remained the same.

(Still working on sentence structure. I should do that tutorial right about now.)


Lee - Jun 01, 2006 7:31:57 pm PDT #156 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

How was your interview, Aimee?


Pix - Jun 01, 2006 7:41:22 pm PDT #157 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Burrell, I'm not sure; I'm teaching in private schools out here. The school I'm in now has a great sex ed/health program, but I have no idea if that's typical. I can tell you that the public school system I worked at in CT also had a decent sex ed program, but that's about where my expertise fades into vague mumblemumbleness.

Aimee's becoming the expert!