She ain't movin'. Serenity's not movin'.

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Strega - Jan 24, 2008 12:12:27 pm PST #9681 of 10001

I believe that's actually on the low side for a 1 hour drama.


brenda m - Jan 24, 2008 12:16:52 pm PST #9682 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Poor guy has to either live with long sleeves in a hot climate or spend hours in makeup getting tattoos applied. They should've run to Canada.

Or just get the freaking tattoos and have done with it.


Tamara - Jan 24, 2008 12:42:18 pm PST #9683 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

It looks like JJ Abrams' Fringe, also bought by Fox, has a $2M per ep license fee as well. I wonder if the sky is falling for that fandom as well?

Wasn't Buffy well over $2M an episode when it went to UPN?


aurelia - Jan 24, 2008 1:36:57 pm PST #9684 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Or just get the freaking tattoos and have done with it.

And when he wants to play a character who isn't tattooed with disguised prison blueprints?


Kevin - Jan 24, 2008 1:41:13 pm PST #9685 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

JJ shits money. I'm not saying the sky is falling for Dollhouse, I'm just saying if a network is sat around looking to save money with in development shows, there's gonna be a list, and Dollhouse is gonna be on it. Hopefully not near the top.


Strega - Jan 24, 2008 1:47:21 pm PST #9686 of 10001

Wasn't Buffy well over $2M an episode when it went to UPN?
The production budget, or the license fee? UPN paid over $2 million per, yes.


Kristen - Jan 24, 2008 1:58:40 pm PST #9687 of 10001

Honestly? There's a reason that Joss got a series commitment and not just a pilot order. And I think the shows that already got series commitments are probably fine.

If I'm at Fox and I'm told to cancel half my projects in development, the first projects I cut are the script only orders, without penalties, that haven't been delivered yet. Then, I cut anything from a lower level writer, who has no track record as a creator, or the ones that have no one significant (actors, directors, etc.) attached.

The last projects I would consider cutting are the ones from the Joss Whedons, the JJ Abramses and the Shawn Ryans. Why? Because, even with a drastically reduced development season, they've got a better chance than some newbie of turning out a great show.

And I really don't want to be the guy who sent that potential hit to another network.


Kevin - Jan 24, 2008 2:04:39 pm PST #9688 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Huzzah. This makes me happy, Kristen.


Tamara - Jan 24, 2008 2:06:07 pm PST #9689 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Thanks, Strega.

That was kind of my thinking as well, Kristen. Thanks for articulating it.


libkitty - Jan 24, 2008 8:00:05 pm PST #9690 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

About Journeyman, I missed it towards the end. Does anyone know if they had a chance to tie up ends before the end? I didn't like the concept of the show, but watched a couple of eps, and then the dang thing kept drawing me in more and more.