You have the emotional maturity of a blueberry scone.

Giles ,'Touched'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kevin - Jan 23, 2008 8:09:06 am PST #9654 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I was speaking to somebody in the office today about monkeys. I was pondering, if I got one and kept it in my apartment, would it sit and watch TV with me?

I wasn't very busy. Obviously.

The BBC has a rehash of the NBC pilot thing: [link]

1 or 2 pilots a year, apparently, to save $50m. Will be interesting to see if anybody else follows.


§ ita § - Jan 23, 2008 8:53:04 am PST #9655 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm working at reduced capacity here, so bear with me.

Zucker wants to go straight to air without having the period where everyone sits around and watches those tapes. They miss out on the opportunity to get a new Willow and such. Does this constitute a full season pickup? If not, how does the cancellation and replacement process go? Have they also got second tier seasons in the can?

Among the shows dropped by NBC after one series is Journeyman, a time-travel series featuring Scottish star Kevin McKidd.

I'm not sure how to differentiate between the two uses of "series" in that sentence. Not least of all because translating the last one to "season" leaves the sentence inaccurate.

And I'm pissed that Bionic Woman is on the bubble and Journeyman is dead. So not fair.


Dana - Jan 23, 2008 8:55:44 am PST #9656 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I'm not sure how to differentiate between the two uses of "series" in that sentence. Not least of all because translating the last one to "season" leaves the sentence inaccurate.

Other way around. The first use of "series" = "season."


Kevin - Jan 23, 2008 9:05:19 am PST #9657 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

We call everything a series here. Including a US 'season'.

As far as I can understand it, if - say - DRIVE had been on NBC, it would have gone out as per the original pilot (Fillionless) with - say - 6 episodes up front.


§ ita § - Jan 23, 2008 9:21:50 am PST #9658 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Other way around. The first use of "series" = "season."

Sorry. There's my reduced capacity at work. But that translation leaves the sentence inaccurate as well, or at least much less specific.

Do they just not care about the distinction?


Kevin - Jan 23, 2008 10:02:07 am PST #9659 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Yeah, we say Doctor Who Series 3. Of the series Doctor Who.


Polter-Cow - Jan 23, 2008 10:05:20 am PST #9660 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So how does anyone know when a series finale is a SERIES FINALE?


Jon B. - Jan 23, 2008 11:23:23 am PST #9661 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I think ita's point is that Journeyman was dropped by NBC even before one "series" was completed.


sumi - Jan 23, 2008 11:25:12 am PST #9662 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Right. Although if Journeyman were British a 13 episode series would be totally normal - possibly even long, right?


Kevin - Jan 23, 2008 11:53:50 am PST #9663 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Journeyman is longer than Faulty Towers, The Prisoner and The Office I think.

I find myself wondering if the US will move more towards a model where shorter series rule. They would have to considerably reduce costs to make short projects profitable, though. Can't see it happening.

So how does anyone know when a series finale is a SERIES FINALE?

It's advertised as Last In The Series, generally.