Bunch of wanna blessed-bes. Nowadays every girl with a henna tattoo and a spice rack thinks she's a sister to the dark ones.

Willow ,'Bring On The Night'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


§ ita § - Aug 17, 2006 1:53:46 pm PDT #933 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When we identify someone as a member of a particular race, we are describing real things about them

Yes, and perhaps not, though. Unless you siphon off all the mixed people and describe them differently. As far as I can tell, there's no comprehensive medical test for race.

I do think it can be a useful construct, but it's not a complete one. It says some probably things about a population, but things get more uncertain the smaller your sample.


Jessica - Aug 17, 2006 2:17:35 pm PDT #934 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Yes, race is just an arbitrary designation. Which means that virtually every random group of people has been described as a race by another random group of people. Including Jews.

Dude, are you trying to inflict Godwin on this conversation?


Kevin - Aug 17, 2006 2:32:24 pm PDT #935 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Hello dudes. Hit the front page of Google's Blogger (where, in fact, the word blog originated. I think), and check out the link to Drive. You couldn't buy that kind of publicity. (Well, you could, but it would cost and stuff).


Polter-Cow - Aug 17, 2006 2:33:30 pm PDT #936 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Eep! I better whip up my review posthaste.


Strega - Aug 17, 2006 2:37:45 pm PDT #937 of 10001

Yes, and perhaps not, though. Unless you siphon off all the mixed people and describe them differently.
Sure. That's why I said a given individual won't have every characteristic you associate with their race. Because it is arbitrary, because everybody's "mixed" to some degree.

"Mammal" is another arbitrary designation. It's a handy way of describing a particular set of characteristics in animals. The fact that the platypus doesn't have all of those characteristics doesn't prevent us from calling it a mammal. Because it's still more like a mammal than it is like something else.

Any system of categorization is just a ways of grouping a set of things (or people) together so you can talk about them usefully. The fact that exceptions exist doesn't make the categories useless.


Kevin - Aug 17, 2006 2:41:31 pm PDT #938 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Jackal has done his (hers?) and it's up.

I've got a full Drive site in development, also. I've been sitting on drivefans.com for a long while. I'm doing it under the badge of my viral fan marketing company as, you know, it's Minear. (Now a verb meaning 'good drama'. Or possibly 'death', you never know).


Jon B. - Aug 17, 2006 2:44:35 pm PDT #939 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Where is Google's blogger? Not here, I guess: [link]


Polter-Cow - Aug 17, 2006 2:46:25 pm PDT #940 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

He means the site, Blogger.com.


Jackal - Aug 17, 2006 2:48:54 pm PDT #941 of 10001
It's not that I'm the only one, it's that I'm the honest one.

Jackal has done his (hers?) and it's up.

Right first time.


Kevin - Aug 17, 2006 2:51:02 pm PDT #942 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

If I was Russell Brand I'd make a joke about your dinkel. And then kill myself.