Simon: Captain... why did you come back for us? Mal: You're on my crew. Simon: Yeah, but you don't even like me. Why'd you come back? Mal: You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?

'Safe'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kevin - Aug 17, 2006 2:51:02 pm PDT #942 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

If I was Russell Brand I'd make a joke about your dinkel. And then kill myself.


§ ita § - Aug 17, 2006 2:55:16 pm PDT #943 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The fact that exceptions exist doesn't make the categories useless

What you said was:

When we identify someone as a member of a particular race, we are describing real things about them

And I disagree. I think you're describing statistically probable things about them. That's a distance from real.


Tim Minear - Aug 17, 2006 3:06:43 pm PDT #944 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Um, my show's about a race... does that make me on-topic?


Kevin - Aug 17, 2006 3:08:22 pm PDT #945 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

No.

Also, I keep having the Team American: World Police song "Aids" in my head.

In fairness, the word(s?) are quite easy to remember.


Allyson - Aug 17, 2006 3:18:14 pm PDT #946 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's thread drift. So it's like, DRIVE: MINEARVERSE DRIFT.

I'm fired.


Kevin - Aug 17, 2006 3:19:55 pm PDT #947 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Tim, if you don't mind me asking (and I'm risking actually being on topic here) - what was the genesis of the Drive script? Did Ben come to you with it already written, and you worked on tidying it, or was it a developed-from-concept between the two of you?

I remember with things like "Billy", I could spot which bits were written by you and which bits were by Jeff. But that's because I'm a giant e-nerdling.


Trudy Booth - Aug 17, 2006 3:32:35 pm PDT #948 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It's thread drift.

It's what happens when threads grow up, you're not a fresh young novelty anymore -- you've reached thread puberty.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 17, 2006 4:10:51 pm PDT #949 of 10001
What is even happening?

Um, my show's about a race... does that make me on-topic?

It's not clear. Are there condoms? Do the racers use them? Correctly?

It's thread drift. So it's like, DRIVE: MINEARVERSE DRIFT.
That's because you people spurned my Watch This Drive thread name suggestion.


Kristen - Aug 17, 2006 4:32:46 pm PDT #950 of 10001

That's a great, non-spoilery review. My favorite part is, of course, this:

With seventeen characters and the mythology of the premise all needing to be established the script doesn't waste anytime and by the end of the episode not only are we aware of the race and its rules and trappings, but each character is also given a moment to shine -- quite often hinting at their secret or agenda while simultaneously showing their various quirks.

That is one of the best, and most impressive, things about the pilot. You have so many characters but they're set up so well that you come away from the pilot feeling like you know each person really well. They don't just blend into one another.

I dunno how Tim does that.


Strega - Aug 17, 2006 4:46:08 pm PDT #951 of 10001

And I disagree. I think you're describing statistically probable things about them. That's a distance from real.

Ah, I think we're using "real" to mean different things. I meant that the characteristics we're generalizing about exist. How we distinguish "white skin" from "black skin" is arbitrary, but we use those words to describe something real about someone's appearance. Even if we aren't describing it very well.