Wow, you've really mastered the power of positive giving-up.

Cordelia ,'End of Days'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


sumi - Nov 17, 2007 2:29:48 pm PST #8274 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Kristin - I'm knitting a scarf now too! It's pink - and I was afraid I wouldnt' remember which row I should knit and which I should purl but it's really clear from the scarf itself.


Kevin - Nov 17, 2007 2:41:07 pm PST #8275 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I need to say it somewhere: I think the pencil push going through United Hollywood is a PR misstep.

Why? I think it's the best shot they have of making it have an impact.


Monique - Nov 17, 2007 3:00:31 pm PST #8276 of 10001

Why? I think it's the best shot they have of making it have an impact.
OK. Network cancels new show with a large online fan following. Fans get pissed, band together and with a rather impressive single-minded focus, inundate said network with an ass-ton of nuts to make a point.

Six months later, another group of fans hear about their favorite writers picketing and throw around the idea of delivering pizzas to said writers. It's so successful than it spins off into a Web site devoted to feeding the writers throughout the strike. Said Web site then generates a moderate amount of press coverage due to the "wow, look, the fans are following this and give a crap" aspect.

Compare that with multimillionaire showrunners publicly ruminating on how to focus their fans' support into something that, in the end, will benefit their pocketbooks. Said showrunners then come up with the idea to basically do a replay of the nuts campaign, only substitute pencils (yes, I know, they're environmentally friendly, yay!). So, six weeks before Christmas, for those fans who celebrate the holiday, they ask their fans to open up their pocketbooks to send a bunch of pencils to the studios, all to make some big dramatic point that will, once again, in the end benefit them financially.

I support the writers, and I know that not all of them are sitting in the lap of multimillion-dollar luxury. However, I think writers pulling the strings of what should be a show of support from the fans is a misstep that lacks the spontaneity of previous, solely fan-generated campaigns. At the very least, I think Fans4Writers should have been the conduit for this, rather than United Hollywood.

And also, as an aside, I think the "let's send some symbol of our rabid fan-ness" card is overplayed and cliche, at this point.


Theresa - Nov 17, 2007 3:01:04 pm PST #8277 of 10001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

The first thing I thought was at least it's not blue gloves.


Kevin - Nov 17, 2007 3:07:20 pm PST #8278 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The idea actually originated from Whedonesque I believe. United Hollywood isn't an official WGA blog, if I recall.

I think part of the problem is that Fans 4 Writers don't have access to the actual meetings, what's happening on the ground, the show runners or anything else. They're getting nearly all their information from United Hollywood and the like.


Theresa - Nov 17, 2007 3:14:19 pm PST #8279 of 10001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I need to say it somewhere: I think the pencil push going through United Hollywood is a PR misstep.

Also, doesn't it seem like even if the pencil campaign reaches its ultimate impact potential, it would still only generate a shoulder shrug from the intended recipients?


Kevin - Nov 17, 2007 3:18:47 pm PST #8280 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Fox's stationary budget will be coming down.


AnthonyDe - Nov 17, 2007 3:33:47 pm PST #8281 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

I've been extremely involved with new media this past year. I'm confident I know as much about it as anyone and that's no exaggeration. I'm trying to position myself as a web content producer. I may even have my own web serial online now. ;-) I know the guys who make lonelygirl15. If anyone follows, the 12in12 format for the season finale was my idea. They've been blazing the trail in this new medium. BTW they are big fans Buffy and the Buffy community. They dropped the ball when they let Quarterlife carry the banner for internet programming that they held for the past year. There's not doubt QL went after it. The lead used to be a cast member of lg15. QL is a not an internet show, it's a TV show that aired on the internet. There is a huge difference between the TV audience and the online audience. The TV audience is passive whereas the online audience is interactive. Most shows made for the internet intentionally break the fourth wall. Who didn't QL sell out in this move with NBC?

bebo just launched an Open Media platform: [link] It's a system letting content owners publish videos from their shows using their own players and advertising, from which they keep all ad revenue. This means anyone can start their own lonelygirl15 or Quarterlife. The drawback is still that people will have to find you.

I'm also involved with sites currently in beta built around a viewing community where there is one central location to view, interact with and talk about web serials. Internet entertainment is like the California goldrush-right now it's really open to everyone. I expect to see a lot of crap-especially now that people will pattern themselves after QL and not lg15 but I guess that's good news for someone like me.


Kat - Nov 17, 2007 4:59:41 pm PST #8282 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Geez. I lost 29 pounds.

That's AWESOME. FTR, while the photo was unflattering, you look good.


Kristen - Nov 17, 2007 5:56:30 pm PST #8283 of 10001

I support the writers, and I know that not all of them are sitting in the lap of multimillion-dollar luxury. However, I think writers pulling the strings of what should be a show of support from the fans is a misstep that lacks the spontaneity of previous, solely fan-generated campaigns. At the very least, I think Fans4Writers should have been the conduit for this, rather than United Hollywood.

That's been my feeling on the subject as well. I've been amazed and touched by all of the various fan efforts (including the lovely Buffista gift bags) but I've tried very hard to not participate or comment during the planning stages. It seemed weird to butt in and also? It felt inappropriate to say, "Here are the ways in which YOU can help ME."

ETA: Thanks, Polgara and Kat! I'm almost halfway to my goal. Happily, my weekly Friday morning picket line cheat doesn't seem to have derailed me.