Excellent points, all! I shall be sure to bring them up if the article ever gets revived.
Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.
River ,'Objects In Space'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Jessica - Aug 15, 2006 9:19:34 am PDT #803 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Aims - Aug 15, 2006 9:26:37 am PDT #804 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
George is hot, but I'm not at all attracted to him.
Gary, well...come on. I think MM would get naked for him.
Yeah, CSI is chock full of teh hawt.
Cashmere - Aug 15, 2006 9:29:49 am PDT #805 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.
Yeah, CSI is chock full of teh hawt.
The first couple of times DH watched CSI with me he asked, "Why's the evidence always at the bottom of a pool? So those guys can take off their shirts?"
I just dribbled.
Aims - Aug 15, 2006 9:35:05 am PDT #806 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
"Why's the evidence always at the bottom of a pool? So those guys can take off their shirts?"
Dammit. THIS is why we never got a shirtless Gunn. NO VAMPS IN A POOL!
§ ita § - Aug 15, 2006 9:38:12 am PDT #807 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Where are the motherfucking vamps in the motherfucking pools?
Aims - Aug 15, 2006 9:38:50 am PDT #808 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
No motherfucking shit.
Strega - Aug 15, 2006 9:42:13 am PDT #809 of 10001
Cindy, I was using SF for speculative fiction, since I find it difficult to define the line between science fiction and fantasy. I mean, sometimes it's easy to say a story is one or the other, but if the mysterious, big-eyed humanoid creatures messing with people are fairies, it's fantasy, and if they're aliens, it's science fiction. There's a David Brin story where they're both, or possibly neither. Is it sci-fi or fantasy?
The show, as it airs, seems perfectly respectful to the SF fan.I may not understand what it means to say a show should respect SF fans. What are shows that aren't properly respectful?
Aims - Aug 15, 2006 9:43:40 am PDT #810 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Star Trek: Enterprise
§ ita § - Aug 15, 2006 9:47:02 am PDT #811 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
What are shows that aren't properly respectful?
A show that mocked them, which can certainly happen. Also ST:Enterprise.
No...I do think it's perfectly possible to alienate large chunks of a group that may even comprise parts of your target audience by jacking with things they hold dear.
OG fans might have been jacked with, but nothing in the show looks, like, say...the worst of Dark Angel which felt like it was treating me like a moron, despite my love of chick in tight clothes kicking ass stuff.
Ailleann - Aug 15, 2006 9:47:06 am PDT #812 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
Is there an Uncanny Valley of sci-fi? If it's close enough to [insert worldview here], then it's not sci-fi?