Giles: Helping out with the dishes makes me feel useful. Dawn: Wanna clean out the garage with us Saturday? You could feel indispensable.

'Dirty Girls'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kat - Nov 06, 2007 7:38:22 am PST #7558 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Yeah, ita, absent the actual article, I'm not sure what the context is. But often when I hear comparisons to teacher's salaries, it seems to be less about look-how-we're-underpaid-just-like-teachers and more this profession which should make more makes something comparable to teachers.

And registered nurses? The NICU nurses make great money, deservedly so. More than average screenwriters, possibly. And they probably have better job security too. Life flight nurses make even more.


Allyson - Nov 06, 2007 7:46:05 am PST #7559 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I took the quote to mean underpaid. Though comparing screenwriters to teachers is like comparing apples and toasters.


victor infante - Nov 06, 2007 7:52:33 am PST #7560 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I took the quote to mean underpaid. Though comparing screenwriters to teachers is like comparing apples and toasters.

This is true, but to expand, I took the quote to mean underpaid, especially considering the amount of money the industry makes.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 06, 2007 8:38:50 am PST #7561 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

This is true, but to expand, I took the quote to mean underpaid, especially considering the amount of money the industry makes.

Exactly how I took it, victor.


Pix - Nov 06, 2007 9:17:42 am PST #7562 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I have to say, the "equivalent to a grade school teacher" is something that could totally piss me off out of context because (1)I am a grade school teacher (2) the implication is that the level of skill and professionalism necessary to write for TV is greater than the skill and professionalism necessary to teach (3) infers that teachers are less than writers, even though our education and professional credentialling requirements, particularly in california, rival that of other professions that require post-BA/BS work.

Regardless of how it was meant, I had exactly this reaction. But I am so sick in general of the use of the terms "schoolteacher" and "grade school teacher" because they are almost always used in a condescending manner. Teacher or educator, kthxbye.

I know that the statement is probably meant simply to emphasize how little writers, like teachers, make, but I can't help how it makes me feel.


Kat - Nov 06, 2007 9:24:59 am PST #7563 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Obvious, the reaction that I have is shaded by being a teacher.

And again, the quote is not necessarily a quote as it was in an unspecified article. Don't know the context.

I am having a hard time explaining it. If you say, "X job gets paid so little, almost as little as a teacher" there are a couple of problems. The implication is both teachers are underpaid and that X job should be paid more than a teacher for a variety of reasons.

It's something that is tiresome to read when you are a teacher. But writing this all out, it makes me feel like the caveman from the Geico commercials complaining to his therapist.


victor infante - Nov 06, 2007 9:30:39 am PST #7564 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It's something that is tiresome to read when you are a teacher. But writing this all out, it makes me feel like the caveman from the Geico commercials complaining to his therapist.

Well, here's this: I make a tad less in journalism than the average WGA writer (going by the $50K average) even though I'm in a flailing industry and TV and film, despite having problems, is still immensely profitable. I would expect if newspapers made a lot more money, to make a bit more myself, and I'm sure my union would agree.

The probelm with comparing any profession to teachers is that teachers' pay isn't (and shouldn't be) linked directly to profit.


Daisy Jane - Nov 06, 2007 10:20:01 am PST #7565 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

BKV on the strike [link]


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 06, 2007 11:58:44 am PST #7566 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The probelm with comparing any profession to teachers is that teachers' pay isn't (and shouldn't be) linked directly to profit.

There's also the fact that there have to be a huge number of teachers per capita compared to professions that pay well, like doctors or lawyers. Education is in the same ballpark of importance as medical care, but one GP can serve hundreds of patients, whereas I'm dubious about even the best teachers being able to teach effectively if they're given more than 30 students in a class.


le nubian - Nov 06, 2007 12:10:45 pm PST #7567 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

as well you should be dubious. Plenty of literature support small class sizes - especially for elementary grades.