Question:
why do you think Heroes worked and found an audience, but Drive did not?
Wesley: I stabbed you. I should apologize for that. But I'm honestly not sure how. I think it'll just be awkward. Gunn: Good call. Wesley: Okay.
'Time Bomb'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
le nubian - Apr 27, 2007 1:27:07 pm PDT #6453 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Tamara - Apr 27, 2007 1:48:24 pm PDT #6454 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Edited because I saw Heroes but read House.
Polter-Cow - Apr 27, 2007 1:55:18 pm PDT #6455 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
why do you think Heroes worked and found an audience, but Drive did not?
A) It premiered in the fall, when people are used to shows premiering.
B) People think superpowers are cool?
Heroes was a megahit straight out of the gate, so it's hard to know what's responsible. There was also a lot of positive media buzz, but I don't know how much attention the average Joe pays to that.
le nubian - Apr 27, 2007 2:08:17 pm PDT #6456 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
It just occurs to me that Fox expected a megahit out of the gate. They hadn't any plans to keep it on the air and cultivate an audience.
That's why I asked about "Heroes" because that's the most recent drama to be a hit out of the gate.
Tom Scola - Apr 27, 2007 2:14:07 pm PDT #6457 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
A higher budget and better special effects.
Burrell - Apr 27, 2007 2:17:39 pm PDT #6458 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Heroes also has characters that can be more easily categorized as good or bad. Tully may be a good guy, but the show keeps reminding us that he's been a bad guy too. One of the things I like about Tim is that he creates heroes that have a dark side, but that may have less mass appeal these days.
Jon B. - Apr 27, 2007 2:20:17 pm PDT #6459 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Heroes also has characters that can be more easily categorized as good or bad.
Heroes has plenty of characters that buck that description. HRG, Claude, even Niki & Linderman really.
§ ita § - Apr 27, 2007 2:27:58 pm PDT #6460 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Heroes has plenty of characters that buck that description. HRG, Claude, even Niki & Linderman really.
Didn't out of the gate, though. HRG was bad, Niki was good, and the other two weren't really around.
I love how Heroes developed a complexity with many of its characters which flips you around on your opinion of them, but it was clearly something they knew ahead of time because they didn't contradict themselves or ask you to make large leaps.
Which is neither here nor there, I guess, but that's how the characters that appeared black and white became less easy to pin down.
Lee - Apr 27, 2007 2:31:04 pm PDT #6461 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
why do you think Heroes worked and found an audience, but Drive did not?
My answer is much shorter than the others:
Hiro
sumi - Apr 27, 2007 3:14:34 pm PDT #6462 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
I think Lee is right: there were alot of characters but everyone loved Hiro. (Even if you think he became irritating later on.)