There's one show in development, msbelle, with Amanda Tapping. I've forgotten what it's called. NBC also had a web show called "Nobody's Watching", which moved to the web as it was popular on Youtube. However it's since been canceled.

The problem with web shows and such is you don't get the dollar backing network TV provides. So you couldn't do anything remotely expensive.

Fans are the ones producing online programming. There's a whole genre of Star Wars universe stuff, and Star Trek New Voyages.

I think Fox should give us a boxed set of The Inside and Drive.

I also agree with what people have said about a Tim show doing better on FX or another cable station. TCG and I were discussing that during the Drive premiere.

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I wasn't watching any of their shows beforehand. And now I'm back to that.

Yeah. I catch Bones once in a blue moon out of DB affection if I'm home that early on a Wednesday night and remember it's on. But Fox has burned me so many times I'm not willing to try new shows unless I have a strong emotional stake in them before the first broadcast.

Fluff like Dancing with the Stars?

I work for the company that produces Dancing, so I'm a bit protective of it. (Even if I didn't know and like the people involved, the money it makes does partly determine my annual bonus.) Can we dump on American Idol instead?

Are there shows being developed for the web or any sites showing web only serial content yet?

Yes, but (so far) not by the big networks. There's a lot of so-called "independent television" being released online, some of it very good -- it's a similar trend to the way low-budget indie films are being released online instead of just winding up in some studio exec's trash bin.

The studios are primarily concentrating on producing short-form content geared towards phones -- partly because it's easier to control distribution and partly because users already expect to pay for phone-based content. People expect things online to be free, which means an ad-based business model, which is exactly what's already not working on TV.

kicks FOX just a little

I liked the show a lot and sad to see it go.

Tim and Kristen, I am so sorry.

I have been known to discuss past seasons of Dancing with the Stars. Well, not so much discuss as pontificate at people who nod and smile and edge away without making any sudden movements, but still. [Pre-emptive Disclaimer: I have for the last two weeks watched Drive on the Tivo (as close as I get to watching live, which I really only do for sporting events anymore) and caught the on-line edition of DwTS]

Are there shows being developed for the web or any sites showing web only serial content yet?

I've seen "web only" content on abc.com's viewer. I watched one episode of one show, it was a very short comedy that wasn't to my taste, but somebody is dipping a toe into the waters. I can't remember if other networks have anything similar.

Thanks for all the tea and sympathy. Years from now, when you speak of this, and you will -- be kind.

Please pass our tea and sympathy (but especially the sympathy, as tea travels poorly through the interpipes) on to all the excellent cast and crew.

Dammit, I want a Minear novel. I'm tired of all these thrilling short stories with the last few pages missing.

Tim, no fair being cute right now.

Preach it, JZ.