What a phenomenal waste of talent and potential. I'm sorry for Tim and Kristen most of all, but this sucks for the rest of us, too.
Spike: Ladies. Come on in. Plenty of blood in the fridge, don't be shy. Dawn: You mean like, real blood? Spike: What do you think? Dawn: Mostly I think, 'Eew!'
'Potential'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Hayden - Apr 25, 2007 1:51:30 pm PDT #6313 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
Polter-Cow - Apr 25, 2007 1:53:17 pm PDT #6314 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Who gets the money, though? Ratings bring in advertiser dollars to the network NOW, but how else does the network get more money afterward? Syndication is one way, right? Do they get a cut of the merchandising? I thought the studio got that, as it's their property.
Kevin - Apr 25, 2007 1:56:32 pm PDT #6315 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Pretty much, Polter-Cow. Networks worry about now. That's why Dancing With The Stars is The Awesome for them -- it generates a load of advertising money immediately. Lack of DVD sales? They don't care.
Every one of FOX's shows this year failed bar 5th Grader. They got problems.
victor infante - Apr 25, 2007 2:02:08 pm PDT #6316 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Every one of FOX's shows this year failed bar 5th Grader. They got problems.
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I wasn't watching any of their shows beforehand. And now I'm back to that.
msbelle - Apr 25, 2007 2:09:38 pm PDT #6317 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Are there shows being developed for the web or any sites showing web only serial content yet? I have network shows I like and watch online or via iTunes, but so many things I have liked in the past 3 - 5 years get cancelled that it seems like less expensive production and then distribution via web could be profitable with a smaller audience. right?
Kevin - Apr 25, 2007 2:12:54 pm PDT #6318 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
There's one show in development, msbelle, with Amanda Tapping. I've forgotten what it's called. NBC also had a web show called "Nobody's Watching", which moved to the web as it was popular on Youtube. However it's since been canceled.
The problem with web shows and such is you don't get the dollar backing network TV provides. So you couldn't do anything remotely expensive.
Dana - Apr 25, 2007 2:17:25 pm PDT #6319 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Fans are the ones producing online programming. There's a whole genre of Star Wars universe stuff, and Star Trek New Voyages.
sj - Apr 25, 2007 2:31:49 pm PDT #6320 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
I think Fox should give us a boxed set of The Inside and Drive.
I also agree with what people have said about a Tim show doing better on FX or another cable station. TCG and I were discussing that during the Drive premiere.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 25, 2007 2:41:16 pm PDT #6321 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I wasn't watching any of their shows beforehand. And now I'm back to that.
Yeah. I catch Bones once in a blue moon out of DB affection if I'm home that early on a Wednesday night and remember it's on. But Fox has burned me so many times I'm not willing to try new shows unless I have a strong emotional stake in them before the first broadcast.
Jessica - Apr 25, 2007 2:43:05 pm PDT #6322 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Fluff like Dancing with the Stars?
I work for the company that produces Dancing, so I'm a bit protective of it. (Even if I didn't know and like the people involved, the money it makes does partly determine my annual bonus.) Can we dump on American Idol instead?
Are there shows being developed for the web or any sites showing web only serial content yet?
Yes, but (so far) not by the big networks. There's a lot of so-called "independent television" being released online, some of it very good -- it's a similar trend to the way low-budget indie films are being released online instead of just winding up in some studio exec's trash bin.
The studios are primarily concentrating on producing short-form content geared towards phones -- partly because it's easier to control distribution and partly because users already expect to pay for phone-based content. People expect things online to be free, which means an ad-based business model, which is exactly what's already not working on TV.