Willow: Happy hunting. Buffy: Wish me monsters.

'Beneath You'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Steph L. - Apr 25, 2007 1:19:47 pm PDT #6300 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oh, man. I hadn't even watched any of the episodes yet (they're taped; I'm a big slacker), and now this.

Tim, Kristen, I'm so sorry about this.

The networks have decided that the only thing that matters is the bottom line

I don't understand how the networks can be confident that the bottom line is going to suck, when a show has only aired for 2 weeks. Don't they need more data to go on? Well, obviously they don't, but it just *seems* as though they would.


victor infante - Apr 25, 2007 1:22:16 pm PDT #6301 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I don't understand how the networks can be confident that the bottom line is going to suck, when a show has only aired for 2 weeks.

Yeah, I know. All four hours of this show aired while I was on vacation. Watched it all in two big gulps on the DVR when I got home.

I don't think they understand how their fan base watches TV.


Kevin - Apr 25, 2007 1:26:35 pm PDT #6302 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Well, in previous days, networks would wait on a show. Example: X-Files. With FOX today, it'd be canceled a few episodes in. It became one of FOX's biggest money earners. To me, that seems messed up. But I don't work in network TV, and don't have to be concerned with the environment, whatever it may be.


sarameg - Apr 25, 2007 1:28:18 pm PDT #6303 of 10001

Well,damn. Condolences to everyone who had fun making it.


Pix - Apr 25, 2007 1:29:30 pm PDT #6304 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

I just skipped to the end to give my condolences to Tim, Kristen and the rest of the people working on Drive. I'm so sorry. For whatever it's worth, I really loved the episodes I saw and am dying to know the rest of the story.


le nubian - Apr 25, 2007 1:29:59 pm PDT #6305 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Excuse me while I type irritated, but couldn't they just sell the show to F/X and make a lot more $$ on it?

I could see this show (dark humor and all) fitting much better on TNT or F/X than Fox.


Lee - Apr 25, 2007 1:30:40 pm PDT #6306 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Well,damn. Condolences to everyone who had fun making it.

Very much this.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 25, 2007 1:32:51 pm PDT #6307 of 10001
What is even happening?

Tim and Kristen, if this is true, I'm sorry.


JZ - Apr 25, 2007 1:33:23 pm PDT #6308 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Several shows that wound up running for very long periods of time and were very popular required multiple seasons to find their audiences.

IIRC, both M*A*S*H and Cheers were like this -- and, hell, even though both arguably dragged on longer than they should have, both also had some utterly amazing episodes in their middle and final seasons, horrifying and comic and just deeply rich stuff that never would've had the chance to happen if their first seasons were airing today.

I feel a big extra whammy of loss for all the foreshortened Tim shows we've gotten when I think of the amazing moments late in the runs of various shows, moments of greatness in everything from M*A*S*H to Buffy, that depended on those years of shared history between actors, writers, directors and audience, where it wasn't just the shiny new writing and the excitement of what-happens-next, but also the accumulated weight of all the storytelling that came before that gave them such power.

I'm so very fond of what we've gotten already, but I resent missing out on that one horribly painful, illuminating moment we might have gotten late in S3 of The Inside, or that hysterical and heartbreaking retcon scene in S4 of Wonderfalls that made us all gasp and forgive the awful mental hospital storyline and go back to our Tivos to watch that look on Jaye's face again and again because we all knew what it took to bring that look there.


Polter-Cow - Apr 25, 2007 1:35:56 pm PDT #6309 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

hysterical and heartbreaking retcon scene in S4 of Wonderfalls that made us all gasp and forgive the awful mental hospital storyline and go back to our Tivos to watch that look on Jaye's face again and again because we all knew what it took to bring that look there.

Waaaaaaaaaah. I miss Wonderfalls.

I'm sorry, Tim and Kristen, that you weren't given a chance.