Riley: No pulse. Anya: Yup. The space lamb got 'im.

'Never Leave Me'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kevin - Jul 18, 2006 7:21:44 am PDT #616 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The opening 'off the building' shot in Heroes is scored to Batman Begins, yes. By the way, if anybody is a Nolan's fan keep an eye out for "The Prestige" in October - it's an awesome movie.

Heroes has great amounts of scope, but because of the pacing of the pilot I can't see it exploding like Lost. It really depends how much the network is spending on it (and so expect from it).


Polter-Cow - Jul 18, 2006 7:38:32 am PDT #617 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

because of the pacing of the pilot I can't see it exploding like Lost.

Yeah, I was a little bored at times. So I agree that it may not EXPLODE, per se, because it takes some more concentration to get into. But I am intrigued.


Strega - Jul 18, 2006 8:20:09 am PDT #618 of 10001

because of the pacing of the pilot I can't see it exploding like Lost.

...Wait, is the implication here that the Lost pilot was fast-paced? Or are you saying that Heroes is even slower?


Polter-Cow - Jul 18, 2006 8:29:35 am PDT #619 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Heroes is even slower. Mostly because it's a little more non-linear and meandering. The pilot doesn't so much have a plot as a collection of character studies.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 18, 2006 10:23:20 am PDT #620 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The Lost teaser was pretty fast-paced, though I think the advance footage of the plane's tail flying off probably roped in several million viewers.


Kevin - Jul 18, 2006 11:38:52 am PDT #621 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

What Matt said. In the first 10 minutes of Lost, you have a plane crash(ish), tail coming off a plane, loads of pretty pretty people, a pretty pretty island, mystery... Of course, I'm not saying Lost is fast paced, but when you compare it to Heroes, you have 10 minutes of people you don't care about talking in darkly lit locations across places in the world you probably don't care about.

I'm hoping the opening 5 minutes oner in Drive has a load of pretty people, looks pretty and generally throws a lot at you.

And why compare Lost to Heroes? I've no idea. I suppose every genre show wants to be a big as hit as Lost was.

I'm not saying Heroes is bad. Too early to judge. It reminded me a bit of 'Serenity' (episode), in that it slowly opens up the characters - which was both a good thing and a bad thing.

Also, I've just found out Alexis is coming to Liverpool Playhouse theatre in September, which is 10 minutes from my digs. I'm totally going. I need a Tshirt with something Minear related on it to make him chuckle and run away.


Kristen - Jul 18, 2006 12:11:55 pm PDT #622 of 10001

Strega - Jul 18, 2006 12:44:21 pm PDT #623 of 10001

In the first 10 minutes of Lost, you have a plane crash(ish), tail coming off a plane,

No, you don't. You have a guy waking up in the jungle, running out to see the aftermath of a plane crash, and then a jet engine explodes and it's funny. That's the teaser. It was a good teaser. But I was still filled with ennui by the end of the hour.

I'm just very skeptical that Lost was a hit because of its pacing.


bon bon - Jul 18, 2006 12:50:27 pm PDT #624 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I remember the last minute of the Lost pilot being the only thing that made me want to watch the show again. Then again, I still don't really watch it.


Kevin - Jul 18, 2006 12:56:29 pm PDT #625 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I think the pacing of the pilot was part of the reason why it hooked an audience. Of course, the pacing after the pilot is why it's loosing that audience.

The other reasons, of course, are the cast pretty, it's reasonably different to what else is out there, and it has "WTF!Homer Foot" moments which make it talk-about TV.