Mal: Well said. Wasn't that well said, Zoe? Zoe: Had a kind poetry to it, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Jessica - Apr 23, 2007 5:22:56 am PDT #6005 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm not sure what's meant by "voluntarily" here - do we mean people who sought out the race on their own, or people who were recruited but aren't being threatened? (Obviously there's a difference between "We want you in this race, so we're prepared to offer you XXXX + $32mil" and "We want you in this race, and to ensure your cooperation we've gone ahead and kidhapped your family," but it doesn't seem like anyone we've met so far just registered on www.crosscountryillegalroadrace.com without outside encouragement.)


Kevin - Apr 23, 2007 5:26:53 am PDT #6006 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

It's said the race is secret, so hopefully it's not that public. I watched the first episode again last night, and noticed the scenary repeating in the background (Flintstones style), about once every 5 seconds. Only in places, though.


Stephanie - Apr 23, 2007 5:40:23 am PDT #6007 of 10001
Trust my rage

I'm not sure what's meant by "voluntarily" here - do we mean people who sought out the race on their own, or people who were recruited but aren't being threatened?

It seems to me that there are two types of people in the race - the ones who want to be there and the ones who feel forced to be there. The soldier/girlfriend, the two brothers, and the dad/daughter all seem to want to be in the race. Wendy and Alex both seemed to be under duress, in my opinion. (I also thought her baby had been kidnapped.)

I can see why someone might say, "Wouldn't it be cool to have our own Amazing Race?" and then, if they had the money, set it up. What I don't get is why someone would say, "Let's have our own Amazing Race and let's threaten/coerce people to take part." I could see some crazy person forcing several people to take part, but it seems to be mixing motivations to me to have some people do it for internal reasons and others be doing it for externally applied reasons. Plus, all these weird characters we keep meeting along the way. Don't get me wrong - I'm enjoying it. I just don't get where it's coming from.


Allyson - Apr 23, 2007 5:46:33 am PDT #6008 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think the sponsors are playing a game against each other, as well. They're betting on the racer(s) they chose to win. Brad doesn't work for the race, for example. He's probably working for Wendy's sponsor.


Kevin - Apr 23, 2007 6:04:30 am PDT #6009 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Shouldn't there be some sort of rules to stop the sponsors interfering, though? Mind you, that would make dull TV.


Liese S. - Apr 23, 2007 6:04:54 am PDT #6010 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, it must originate more with the sponsors. Which means someone's got some cash, if the racers are going for the 32 mil, the sponsors must be going for significantly more.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2007 6:05:14 am PDT #6011 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Shouldn't there be some sort of rules to stop the sponsors interfering, though?

Why?


Polter-Cow - Apr 23, 2007 6:08:03 am PDT #6012 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Because it's not...fair? "I'm 'betting' that this person is going to win. Also, I am going to help said person and fuck with his competitors to ensure that he wins."

You'd think they chose their horses based on who they thought would do best on their own.

I mean, it's obviously part of the rules of the game that you get to interfere, I suppose, but it changes the point, slightly.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 23, 2007 6:10:17 am PDT #6013 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Because it's not...fair?

I doubt that people who would kidnap a small child and engineer a situation where her parents die horribly in a car crash before her eyes are all that concerned with fairness.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2007 6:10:44 am PDT #6014 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You'd think they chose their horses based on who they thought would do best on their own.

That's your race, though.

it changes the point, slightly.

Changes the point from what? There's not some Platonic ideal of race whose rules they'd be breaking. They get to make their game what they want.